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I started Ammo on an e-collar today, well kind of. I went out and tried to find a working level I was never able to find one. I watched him super close but he never responded. I stopped before I got it to high, around 30 (it's a dogtra collar). He never flinched, blinked, nothing. I tried on pavement, in the pack yard, and even in the house. At one point he even went to sleep.

I know it's working. I have tested it on myself and when I got around 30 on him I could see his muscles twitch. I did get a response from him when I used the pager button, it vibrates on his neck. He is actually minding pretty good with just the pager button. I'm just not sure if it would work when he gets excited.

Can someone please help me out with this? Should I just keep turning up the power? Should I just use the pager button? Has anyone had a dog that wouldn't respond to one? What do I do? Help!


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brush his neck to get as much undercoat out as possible and move the probeds around and try to get them to contact skin and not have a bunch of hair underneath.
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A couple questions. Have you conditioned him to the collar? Or did you just slap it on and go? No that doesnt really matter to you your question about him responding, I'm just curious.

Do you have the long contacts on it? What model specifically? Not all are the same. Is it high up on his neck and tight?
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why do you need an e-collar?

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I started Ammo on an e-collar today, well kind of. I went out and tried to find a working level I was never able to find one. I watched him super close but he never responded. I stopped before I got it to high, around 30 (it's a dogtra collar). He never flinched, blinked, nothing. I tried on pavement, in the pack yard, and even in the house. At one point he even went to sleep.

I know it's working. I have tested it on myself and when I got around 30 on him I could see his muscles twitch. I did get a response from him when I used the pager button, it vibrates on his neck. He is actually minding pretty good with just the pager button. I'm just not sure if it would work when he gets excited.

Can someone please help me out with this? Should I just keep turning up the power? Should I just use the pager button? Has anyone had a dog that wouldn't respond to one? What do I do? Help!


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A couple questions. Have you conditioned him to the collar? Or did you just slap it on and go? No that doesnt really matter to you your question about him responding, I'm just curious.

Do you have the long contacts on it? What model specifically? Not all are the same. Is it high up on his neck and tight?
I am working on conditioning him to it but I get absolutely no response with him. I have the dogtra 1900. I start at 1 and work slowly up. The contacts are fairly long, I'm not sure if they are the longest ones though. I have it placed as high as I can on his neck and tight, on one side.

I have spent a lot of time researching e-collars and learning to use them properly before I bought one.


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why do you need an e-collar?
We are moving into a house without a fence and I need to train him to a reliable recall. I have spent a lot of time researching and learning how to correctly use one.


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How long are the contacts? they may not be making contact. I had problems with 1/2" contacts. I think the ones I have now are 3/4"

I'm surprised you didn't have a strong response yourself at 30. At 20, I accidentally threw mine across the room.




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I am working on conditioning him to it but I get absolutely no response with him. I have the dogtra 1900. I start at 1 and work slowly up. The contacts are fairly long, I'm not sure if they are the longest ones though. I have it placed as high as I can on his neck and tight, on one side.

I have spent a lot of time researching e-collars and learning to use them properly before I bought one.


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By conditioning, I just ment putting the collar on for a period of time without it ever being turned on. My dogs will wear it for a month or two before ever getting a correction. Thanks for answering and not taking that question in a snarky way

When using an e-collar you don't need to see the dog convulsing on the floor to know it's working (exageration I dont think thats what you're doing). If your getting the desired result with the vibration then I would ride that as long as you can. The 1900 is a big collar. I wouldn't imagine your dog needs too much. Make sure the contacts are on skin and go from there. Just remember the best e-collar trainers I have ever seen you couldn't even tell the dog was getting corrected. Just enough to get the desired result. I'm sure you have studied this, just making sure. It's so easy to get frustrated and crank it up.
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How long are the contacts? they may not be making contact. I had problems with 1/2" contacts. I think the ones I have now are 3/4"

I'm surprised you didn't have a strong response yourself at 30. At 20, I accidentally threw mine across the room.
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I know it's working. I have tested it on myself and when I got around 30 on him I could see his muscles twitch.
Isn't that a response?

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