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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 08-06-2012, 09:14 PM Thread Starter
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Ceaser millan vs Victoria Stilwell?

Who do you think is a better trainer? Just wanted to hear your thoughts, lol


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post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old 08-06-2012, 09:20 PM
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MODS PLEASE CLOSE THIS!!! Holy crap this has been beat to death. OP- do a search.

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Here's a link to tons of previous discussions on Milan & Stillwell: https://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...stillwell.html

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MODS PLEASE CLOSE THIS!!! Holy crap this has been beat to death. OP- do a search.
Come on wildo, be nice. New members don't realize about the old threads.

The link attached is a good one. For me...I like them both and they are very different.

Cesar really ends up dealing with some really scary situations/dogs that are in a life/death (for them) situation if he can't help.

Victoria is able to deal with more normal dogs that just have owners that are over their heads and have no idea what owning a dog involves. So with her guidance and training information they can get on the right path.






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And, as a final note, Cesar Milan does not train dogs.
So as far as dog training, Victoria would win hands down.




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There are things I like in each of them and things I don't in each of them.

I like CM for his capacity to deal with harder and more aggressive dogs, and he doesn't give up on dogs. But sometimes I don't agree with his psychological analysis or dominance theory, and there are also times when harshness is not necessary (although he's learning more positive methods and that's admirable, at least his pride is not in the way to accept new methods).

I like VS's methods as they are nice alternatives, but I don't like her arrogance and how she criticizes people that uses corrections.
Also, there's that Benjy's episode in which I find her judgement about how serious dog bites were a bit too exaggerated, as I don't see RG aggression that serious. On the other hand, I guess that I agree the PTS decision as the dog attacked the family children for no apparent reason after the RG attack (or so they said, average owners might have missed some signals, dog might have perceived some object as threat, and so on) and with such a history, he might not be very adoptable while it's not safe to keep him in the family anymore.
But I didn't like how dramatic she made the RG attack seemed, as it can influence many owners to dramatize over RG attacks in the future and consider PTS without much thoughts. That's the power of a well-known trainer, if a well-known trainer said it's very bad, then who are the average owners to deny it?
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Come on wildo, be nice. New members don't realize about the old threads.
I was being nice.

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I can figure out most of the abbreviations on the forum but what is RG?

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I like and prefer Victoria.

She doesn't take crap from the bad owners, she tells them what they are doing wrong and how to fix it, she uses positive training and informs people about the problems that come with over feeding their animals. She also tells the owners how important it is to play with their dog and exercise their dog both physically and mentally.

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I can figure out most of the abbreviations on the forum but what is RG?
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