Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Jeff. County, NY
CGC - now that I've done it, let's talk :D
Since I've been told that I can't say anything negative about the CGC because I've never done it with my own dogs and don't know how hard it is to train for it. Let's talk about it.
First off, let me say that I do not want to diminish any and all efforts of anyone they put into their dogs. There are certainly dogs out there that need more work than others. Dog Reactivity, Separation Anxiety, etc.
However, I do not believe that the CGC is a suitability test to test a dog if they are breedworthy and there have been numerous discussions about breeders that only put the CGC on their dog and then think they have a breedworthy dog. It's NOT a title!
Since yesterday, Yukon has his CGC. I've never even trained for it. He's retired, knows very basic obedience, nothing special, hasn't trained in about half a year, is very very velcro with me and most of you know his history.
My SAR Tester also is a CGC Tester. So throughout the day she saw him in many different, real-life situations. How he acts when he goes through a crowd of people, how he acts towards other dogs, how his re-call is, sit, down, how she can take him out of my hand, he can be petted by total strangers, brushing not a problem. Overall, he is just a super well behaved dog and I barely put any Obedience on him at all. It's just the way he is. He has an outstanding temperament and even with loud noises, he doesn't jump, he recovered himself from his bad experiences all by himself.
She took a shovel and literally hit on the concrete right in front of him. Loud Thunder above us... ATV's (four wheelers and all the other busy going of the Team training, teenagers etc.) not an issue at all and between all that, he absolved his CGC.
What I did not know is that you are allowed to talk to your dog at all times and give hand-signals on top of that. So if you have a medi-ocre stay you can still walk back, with your hand up, talking to the dog "Stay, Stay, Stay." and hoping he stays. If he does, you've got it.
That would be an absolute NO-GO in the BH.
So overall, the BH is a much harder test just because of the routine. You do the whole routine on leash, than you have to do it off leash. It takes a heck of a lot of concentration for the dog and handler whereas for the CGC the dog doesn't require that level of concentration plus you are allowed to talk and give hand signals on top of that. So you can actually influence your dog a lot more than with the BH. You don't have the long downstay that is required for the BH.
Both tests have parts that are not easy to pass. A dog reactive dog might have a hard time with the CGC and the BH but overall, I strongly believe that if you pass the CGC you won't pass the BH, however 98% of the dogs who pass the BH WILL pass the CGC.
Last edited by Mrs.K; 07-16-2012 at 10:32 AM.