Why the word NO is the WORST word to use - German Shepherd Dog Forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 06-02-2012, 09:57 AM Thread Starter
Crowned Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: SouthEastern WI
Posts: 14,168
Why the word NO is the WORST word to use

Let's say you walk into a room and your dog is laying on your couch, chewing on a sock. You say "NO!".

Did you mean:
  1. No - don't lay on the couch
  2. No - don't chew on the sock
  3. No - don't chew on the sock WHILE laying on the couch
  4. No - don't chew on THAT sock
  5. No - don't lay on THAT couch
  6. And so on ...
Dogs DO NOT GENERALIZE - especially puppies.


Instead of NO - try teaching these commands:



  • If your dog is on the couch and you don't want them up there - teach them OFF.
  • If your dog is chewing something they shouldn't - teach them LEAVE IT.
  • If your dog is pulling on the leash - teach them EASY.
  • If your dog is barking - teach them QUIET.
  • If your dog is rushing out a door - teach them WAIT.
Lauri & The Gang is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 29 (permalink) Old 06-02-2012, 10:02 AM
Junior Member
 
HGSD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 31
Good stuff, imma try this.
HGSD is offline  
post #3 of 29 (permalink) Old 06-02-2012, 10:04 AM
Knighted Member
 
WildWolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 3,171
That's what I do. I used 'nein' (no) for potty training and in Schutzhund/obedience. There are specific commands for everything else.

SG S-Hunter vom Geistwasser CA CGN TT ATD (Service Dog, Retired Airport Wildlife Control K9)
Zenna vom Geistwasser NTD


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
WildWolf is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 29 (permalink) Old 06-02-2012, 10:16 AM
Crowned Member
 
llombardo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 14,027
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lauri & The Gang View Post
Let's say you walk into a room and your dog is laying on your couch, chewing on a sock. You say "NO!".

Did you mean:
  1. No - don't lay on the couch
  2. No - don't chew on the sock
  3. No - don't chew on the sock WHILE laying on the couch
  4. No - don't chew on THAT sock
  5. No - don't lay on THAT couch
  6. And so on ...
Dogs DO NOT GENERALIZE - especially puppies.


Instead of NO - try teaching these commands:



  • If your dog is on the couch and you don't want them up there - teach them OFF.
  • If your dog is chewing something they shouldn't - teach them LEAVE IT.
  • If your dog is pulling on the leash - teach them EASY.
  • If your dog is barking - teach them QUIET.
  • If your dog is rushing out a door - teach them WAIT.

This I already do and I find that "come" can be a borderline command too. Thats why I don't tell my dogs to come if I'm giving medicine, brushing the teeth, grooming, etc..anything that they might not like I don't use come but I go to them. You don't want come to be associated with anything that might be bad in the dogs eyes.

Misty- Samoyed Mix, Tannor- Golden Retriever CGC
Robyn- GSD CGC, TC, Midnite-GSD CGC,TC, Brennan-Golden Retriever CGC, Batman-Husky/Greyhound , Apollo-GSD
llombardo is offline  
post #5 of 29 (permalink) Old 06-02-2012, 10:16 AM
Crowned Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 19,496
I'm kind of lazy when it comes to this stuff. I've never really taught "leave it" but I use the dog's name to redirect their attention to me (since it does that anyway). I do say "no" a lot but my dogs react to my tone of voice rather than the word. If I'm stern, it's basically a verbal correction. If I'm neutral, it's an NRM.
Liesje is offline  
post #6 of 29 (permalink) Old 06-02-2012, 11:01 AM
Elite Member
 
NewbieShepherdGirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Ames, Iowa
Posts: 1,840
I generally use "AH-AH!" and she seems to understand that that means stop whatever you're doing. I used it from the get go instead of no because no is a word one uses all the time in everyday conversation, and I was worried she get desensitized to the word.

~Sasha~{GSD}~ 3ish~Gotcha day January, 29, 2011
~Monte~{Golden Retriever}~ (RIP)~ 1997-2009

NewbieShepherdGirl is offline  
post #7 of 29 (permalink) Old 06-02-2012, 11:10 AM
Elite Member
 
katdog5911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: New Milford Ct
Posts: 1,622
I use "off", "leave it", etc and also ah-ah. The tone of my voice definitely communicates a lot! Even NO works when hysterically screamed from across the pool, as Stella was getting ready to step onto the solar cover....
katdog5911 is offline  
post #8 of 29 (permalink) Old 06-02-2012, 11:27 AM
Moderator
 
dogfaeries's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Moore, Oklahoma
Posts: 5,220
I need to show this thread to my other half He typically uses the wrong commands -"down" when he means "off", "sit down" to mean "sit". Drives me nuts.

And "leave it" is the first thing I ever teach a dog. Best command EVER! All my dogs will stop dead in their tracks if I tell them leave it. No yelling, just a low "leave it" works.

~ Diane ~

CARLY ......... Ch. Lauremi's No Reservations (AKC GCh pointed, HIC)
SCARLET ..... Lauremi's Almost Wasn't (AKC pointed)
and absent friends... SAGE ~ Lauremi's Whim Z v Jakmar ~ AKC major ptd, HIC ~ 2010-2015
dogfaeries is online now  
post #9 of 29 (permalink) Old 06-02-2012, 11:29 AM
Crowned Member
 
Lilie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: South Texas
Posts: 12,391
Great post, Lauri! Human nature makes us say, "NO!" when we see our puppers doing the unthinkable. But it truly doesn't help the pup learn anything when we squeal in a panicked state at them!

Hondo Von Dopplet L Bauernhof "Hondo"- GSD
Lilie's Tug McGraw "Tug" - Golden Retriever
Maggie - Mini Dachshund (Rescue)
Lonestar Pivo - Texas Blue Lacy
Ashe - Barn Cat
Katie / APHA
Lilie is offline  
post #10 of 29 (permalink) Old 06-02-2012, 11:43 AM
Senior Member
 
pfitzpa1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 481
No, is not a command it is a negative marker, just like yes is a positive marker during training. The disobedience is marked and the dog is removed from the couch. If you say off, and the dog obeys and you praise the dog, you have praised the dog for getting off the couch. So getting off the couch is a fun/happy thing to do, so this will not discourage the dog from getting on the couch again and you have diverted away from the issue which is being on the couch in the first place.
IMO disobedience should not be corrected with another command, the original fault must be corrected first.
pfitzpa1 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the German Shepherd Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome