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post #1 of 2 (permalink) Old 05-01-2012, 09:55 PM Thread Starter
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E-Collar Training Theory....Need Help

Hello All,

Just bought a Dogtra 1900NCP today and I was hoping to tap some of the endless knowledge on this forum for exactly which type of training theory I should use for my dog. He is a 11month intact male whose name is Otto.

I have done a solid amount of research on training theory and I have read the Lou Castle stuff and I have Ed Frawley's E-collar DVD and I am stuck because both theories seem logical enough to me to both seem like reasonable options but I can't really decide on which is best.

I see the the two different theories that most people advocate as:

1.) Ed Frawley: The people who use the "nick" feature as a correction for not obeying a command. Typically the stim is used in concert with the NO command.

2.) Lou Castle: The people who use the "continuos" feature by applying stim while the command is given and releasing the stim as soon as the desired behavior is executed.

After quite a bit of research and going back and forth, I was leaning towards the Lou Castle Camp until I recently came across another theory that seemed to be a hybrid of the two:
(Note: Credit goes to JKlatsky on the forum for where I came across this idea.)

3.) The stim is loaded much like a clicker in that the dog is heavily treated when the stim is applied. The idea being to create an association in the dogs mind where the stim means: PAY ATTENTION - IMMINENT TREATS! In the post I read, there was a decreased likelihood of your dog developing neurotic behaviors using this method. I am really intrigued by using the E-collar to positively motivate attention.

Theory 1.) Stim=correction

Theory 2.) Stim=negative motivation

Theory 3.) Stim=positive motivation

Sorry, I was a Philosophy Major in college so I get tied up in theories, regardless of what they seek to explain. Clearly dogs have been effectively trained using all three, and quite frankly they all seem like a pretty good way to go.

I was hoping someone could set me straight. I'd really love to hear from people who use the E-Collar as a positive motivator.

Thanks in advance. I don't know what I would do without this place.

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post #2 of 2 (permalink) Old 05-01-2012, 10:48 PM
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Did you just have a thread on this topic a few days ago? There's no need to start a new one, you can simply continue the existing thread.

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