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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 03-29-2012, 04:38 PM Thread Starter
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Clicker Training.. the moment it clicked.. hehe :D

Ok pun intended.. haha. But I honestly never ever got the point of clicker training.. it just seemed like a whole lot of work for a result you can get without have to balance treats, a clicker, timing, blah blah blah.. but I have to say.. I was walking the kids the other day and literally had an "aha" moment.. when it literally clicked.. the point of clicker training.. it made so much sense and I essentially did that while training just using a marker word instead of a click.. Just felt like sharing, lol.. I was so excited to finally have gotten it..

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Ok pun intended.. haha. But I honestly never ever got the point of clicker training.. it just seemed like a whole lot of work for a result you can get without have to balance treats, a clicker, timing, blah blah blah.. but I have to say.. I was walking the kids the other day and literally had an "aha" moment.. when it literally clicked.. the point of clicker training.. it made so much sense and I essentially did that while training just using a marker word instead of a click.. Just felt like sharing, lol.. I was so excited to finally have gotten it..
The clicker is the marker. You can use almost anything as your marker to train with. The reason I like the clicker over a marker word (which I do use as well) is for the exact-ness of the timing, and the neutrality of the sound. A clicker never sounds tired, frustrated, angry, whatever. In the case of deaf dogs, a flashlight can be the marker and works quite well.

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The "old-school" method is with a marker word instead of a click. People like it because if you're showing, you can't use a clicker anyways. Then again, you can't really use words also. The clicker is much more precise with timing and the dog generally can understand it a lot quicker. Think about how long a click takes as compared to a "yes" or a "good dog." It's really each person's preference, we clicker trained for a little bit, but then kept forgetting to bring it with.
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I just started using the clicker again. I get a better response to the clicker than the verbal marker. He loves it but I always forget to bring it out and about (need to train myself).
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I use a marker word ("yes") with my dog because clicker training really didn't seem to work well with either of us. I was completely stalling on training with my foster dog and brought out the clicker and THAT was the answer! He hadn't learned simple little tricks like "shake" and "spin" for weeks and then in one day with the clicker he had everything down pat. Must be sometime with my timing and tone that doesn't work for him. I'm highly suggesting it to whoever adopts him. My dog, Lucas, on the other hand couldn't care less.
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it made so much sense and I essentially did that while training just using a marker word instead of a click..
I'm not sure if this was your aha moment (that you can use a marker word rather than click) but I thought I'd mention that there is at least one study that shows that as far as the bridge stimulus is concerned- a click is more effective than a word. (I am not intending to imply that a word won't work for a bridge, just pointing out that the clicker may prove to be more effective.)

http://www.clickertraining.com/files...S_EFFICACY.pdf

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Experimental training of two groups of 10 naïve dogs (Canis familiaris) to perform the target task differed only by the assigned bridging stimulus: a clicker or spoken word "good." Although both types of bridging stimuli are used in the training field to indicate the precise instance of correct behavior, this study represents the first systematic comparison of the efficacy of these two types of bridging stimuli. There was a decrease of over 1/3 in training time and number of required reinforcements for the clicker as compared to the verbal condition group. The clicker trained dogs achieved behavior acquisition in significantly (p < .05) fewer minutes and required significantly fewer primary reinforcements than verbal condition dogs. The difference in effectiveness of the two bridging stimuli was most apparent at the onset of each new task component. It appears that use of the clicker, by providing a more precise marker than a verbal bridging stimulus, is responsible for superior acquisition of complex behaviors such as that studied here.

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I use a clicker, and also a marker word. I've had some AMAZING results with my foster Beagle! I plan to keep on clicker training all of of my foster dogs now.

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WOW sorry I never got notifications about the replies! lol.. well I haven't used clicker training yet! My training class does right now but because I did "get" it before, I decided to train without it. Though I am contemplating trying it as Athena is a little more difficult than Titan was, lol.

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