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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-06-2011, 07:35 PM Thread Starter
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Biting the Muzzle

So I got a few dog training books to get ideas on how to help Sophie control her excessive barking and agression toward other dogs and started reading :"If a shake on the scruff of the neck does not work, you may want to BITE the dog's muzzle" Seriously???????

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That's a really good way to get yourself bitten!
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I agree,,sheesh, take that book off my list of "must haves"

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I agree,,sheesh, take that book off my list of "must haves"
I was just scanning through it when I read that. It actually shows a picture of him biting his dog's muzzle. Definitely not a winner for book. I can't believe some trainers would recommend that.

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What book is it?
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Dog Talk--Training Your Dog Through a Canine Point of View by John Ross and Barbara McKinney. Here is the picture showing him bite his dog's muzzle.



Honestly, I was shocked to read this but thought maybe this is old school training? Definitely not an approach I want to use with my babies. I hope it's ok for me to post this picture. If not, mods please remove and sorry.

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I had a student in my CGC Class 2 years ago with a German Short Haired Pointer. I looked over in class after hearing her dog yelp, just in time to see her biting her dog's ear. I called out to her, and she responded with "Well, he bit me first!!".
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Well, dogs do bite other dogs' muzzles all the time to correct, reprimand, or just remind them of their rank. So I can sort of see the logic, but recommending this in a book to inexperienced pet owners is asking for a lawsuit! When you have a dog that shows aggression toward other dogs and is already worked up, you'll be lucky if biting him doesn't redirect his aggression on you.
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Well, dogs do bite other dogs' muzzles all the time to correct, reprimand, or just remind them of their rank. So I can sort of see the logic, but recommending this in a book to inexperienced pet owners is asking for a lawsuit! When you have a dog that shows aggression toward other dogs and is already worked up, you'll be lucky if biting him doesn't redirect his aggression on you.
Yes that's why I was attracted to this book because I want to learn more about the canine point of view. Just didn't think that while it is good to understand that view, it's good to actually act like a canine. Not sure I want to use that approach. I got some other books as well, so I am sure I will find one that seems more reasonable.

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