heel questions - German Shepherd Dog Forums
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-23-2011, 10:19 PM Thread Starter
Knighted Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Toronto Ontario
Posts: 2,081
Question heel questions

hello

i have a few heel questions

to get your dog back into a heel position what word do you guys usually use? like you call your dog over your dog comes sit in front of you and then to get them in the heel position do you say heel then?


Also while on walks is it okay to have your dog heel on certain parts of the walk like in tight areas or around kids and other dogs then give your dog the okay go free command in areas where you want to give your dog more freedom around water field etc..

i have been walking my dog in a park on long line recently and she loves it we heel when we pass people or if the trail is too narrow i dont let her off leash.
pets4life is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-23-2011, 11:13 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 70
I normally slap the side of my leg to get him into heel position. To call him to me I use the command "back".
woody is offline  
post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-23-2011, 11:37 PM
Crowned Member
 
selzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Denmark, Ohio
Posts: 31,547
First of all, I train with a leash first, and then train without the leash. If I call FRONT, and back up, that means the dog must come to the front of me and sit close enough so I can pet her head and hold the collar -- I do not, but I can.

then I say FINISH, and she will swing over to my left side and sit in the heel position. Or I will say AROUND, and she will go behind me and sit in the heel position. Then I say Heel, and lead off with a half-step with my left foot. If I do not want them to SIT in the heel position, I say HEEL and start moving before they are all the way around in position.

On walks, we heel some of the time, always across streets, the rest of the time, I give them some lead, and so long as they do not pull me, I let them sniff and be dogs.

ETA: If we are ready and working off-lead, they need to be in heel position, sitting when I stop, heeling when I am going, all the time.

Heidi Ho, Odie
Joy-Joy, Bear Cub, Hepsi-Pepsi
Cujo2, Karma Chameleon
Ramona the Pest, Kojak -- who loves you baby?
Tiny Tinnie, Susie's Uzzi, Kaiah -- The Baby Monster.
selzer is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-24-2011, 03:16 AM
Crowned Member
 
Lucy Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 6,915
I'll give lucy the "side" command. She'll be in front of me and I'll say "side" and, well, it's pretty self explanatory from there. She kind of just wraps around me and is in heel position.

Here's a good youtube video on how to teach the command.

Lucy Dog is offline  
post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-24-2011, 03:27 AM
Crowned Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 4,832
I tell my dog to heel to get him into position.

I never ask him to heel when out for a walk. If I want he closer, I just say his name and shorten the leash.

Elaine and the herd
Elaine is offline  
post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-24-2011, 05:17 AM
Elite Member
 
Achielles UD's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: MO
Posts: 1,449
Your first question is about the go to heel position from sitting in front, correct? In the obedience world this is called a "finish." The commands I use are "Fuss" (German command for heeling/heel) for the left finish. With the left finish your dog is moving directly to your left side, into heel position. I also use "Fuss" to mean to heel with me when walking. The other command I use as a finish command is "Around" for the right finish, where the dog goes to my right, around behind me and sits on the left in heel position.

While walking, I have 3 commands.
  1. "Let's Go" which means walk on my left side and don't pull on the leash. This is used for the majority of the walk. The dog is not required to pay attention to me by looking up and may be slightly ahead or behind me so long as the leash is loose.
  2. "Free" which means walk where you want, just don't pull on the leash. The dog is allowed to go right or left sides and the leash is freely given so they may sniff and "check the mail" and relieve themselves.
  3. "Fuss"/"Heel" which means to walk with your head up, attention on my shoulder/hip/face (depending on height of dog) with the dogs right ear/eye in line with the seam of my pants. This is a very hard position to maintain but I do it frequently in small sections during a "walk."
If I were to use each during an hour walk, the overall time spent in each position would be: 45 minutes of "Let's Go", 10 minutes of "Free" and 5 minutes of "Fuss/Heel." Not all at once, but sporadically during the walk (ie: 15 min Let's go, 3 min free, 30 seconds heel/fuss then back to either free or let's go... etc during the hour).

I don't work off leash until the dog has shown me they can work under extremely distracting conditions or we are in a safe, low distraction environment...

Moxie vom Triton RA CD (GSD)
Breaca von Dog Pound (BC)
APRI Ch Royalty's Jinx'D Ya RN CDX (Sheltie)
RIP Achielles UD, Axel CD, Hella & Malfoy (GSDs)
Achielles UD is offline  
post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-24-2011, 07:43 AM
Master Member
 
Caitydid255's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 629
I use "heel" which means stay by my side. As we walk I will slap my hip if she is getting out of focus. If she gets too far ahead I say back. After the walk or if I'm going to let her off leash for a while I will say "Take a break"

Freyja GSD- 6/21/10
Angus GSD-02/11/07
Bevin (princess kitty) 08/27/07
Porsche: kitty 7/2012

Teddy (collie)- 1990-09/13/2006
Franklin (collie) 1996-06/26/2006
Caitydid255 is offline  
post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-24-2011, 11:49 AM
Master Member
 
EchoGSD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Warren, MI
Posts: 594
I use the word "heel" to indicate I want her to go heel position in the left direction, and I say "by me" when I want her to go to heel position in the right direction (ie, around behind me). Echo ends up in a better position after a "by me"; she never quite gets her whole rear end around when she finishes to the left.

-LeeAnn
There are two kinds of dogs: Dogs who are German Shepherds, and dogs who WISH they were German Shepherds....
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Echo of Someday Vom Royale, CD, RA, CGC, TDI
Laughin' Tori Lori, CD, RN, CGC
Marcella's Miss Ruby Dee, RN, CGC, TDI
EchoGSD is offline  
post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-24-2011, 12:13 PM
Elite Member
 
cassadee7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: WA
Posts: 1,313
"heel" for a formal heel position, moving or not. If she is sitting in front of me and I say "heel," she finishes around behind me.

"let's go" for a general walk to my left with a loose leash.

Shawn
Mom to five kids and
"Saber" Jette vom Wildhaus BN RN CAX JJ-N HIC CGC
Kira vom Snoozhaus ZZZ CGC!!!

Saber's Blog:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
cassadee7 is offline  
post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-24-2011, 12:26 PM
No Stinkin' Leashes Moderator
 
Cassidy's Mom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 31,940
Quote:
Originally Posted by pets4life View Post
hello

i have a few heel questions

to get your dog back into a heel position what word do you guys usually use? like you call your dog over your dog comes sit in front of you and then to get them in the heel position do you say heel then?
Yes. Heel is a position, not the act of getting into that position. If I'm moving, the dog is moving in heel position. If I'm stationary, the dog comes to heel position and sits at my side.

As others have said, if you have want to train a left and a right finish it's a good idea to use two different commands, but whichever finish you're going to use most of the time should probably be trained to the heel command.

-Debbie-
Cava 1/6/18
Keefer 8/25/05-4/24/19 ~ The sweetest boy
Halo 11/9/08-6/17/18 ~ You left pawprints on our hearts
Dena 9/12/04-10/4/08 ~ Forever would have been too short
Cassidy 6/8/00-10/4/04
Cassidy's Mom is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the German Shepherd Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome