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diff training methods per bloodline

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Just curious would you guys expect a good breeder to give you a path or reccomend some books and dvds that would apply to the best training method for their bloodline of dogs?

why i say this is it seems certian training methods go better with some dogs then they do with others

like would someone train a akc american shepherd pup the same they would train a working czech pup?

I have gotten a dog his cgc in the past but i imagine each good breeder would have their own training and sets of rules to follow for their pups
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would NILF apply to everything? even shutzhund dogps
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NILIF is good for schutzhund dogs, agility dogs, small children, teenagers. . .


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I think the same training principles apply but not every one trains the same way. For the first 2 1/2 years I trained Jax strictly with a prong collar. What I have is a dog that only listens when she is forced too. So I found a new trainer and just love her methods. It's fair, it's motivating for Jax, and it's fun. Look for a positive based trainer and you can't go wrong.
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A good trainer will adopt their training approach to the individual dog that they have in front of them. All good trainers that I have seen/trained under use some degree of positive reinforcement (praise, a toy or treats or all three) and the best ones also use some form/type of "correction" to let the dog know when they are doing something that they shouldn't.

I don't think that the true fanatical "positive only" approach works with some dogs - my current dog being one of them. He is a very pushy self confident dog and needs to know quickly when his behavior is not acceptable.
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I think training varies from session to session as well. You may be positive based for so long and then a little pressure is applied.
As far as training in different venues, the breeder can help but it is up to the handler to figure out what best methods work for them.
My pups breeder knew I was going to do SchH with him, so gave me several links and book titles to read before even bringing him home...helped the wait go by a bit faster.

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with my dogs i practice MILIF (Most In Life Is Free).
my dog doesn't have to do something for a treat, a rub, kind words, etc.

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A good trainer will adopt their training approach to the individual dog that they have in front of them. All good trainers that I have seen/trained under use some degree of positive reinforcement (praise, a toy or treats or all three) and the best ones also use some form/type of "correction" to let the dog know when they are doing something that they shouldn't.

I don't think that the true fanatical "positive only" approach works with some dogs - my current dog being one of them. He is a very pushy self confident dog and needs to know quickly when his behavior is not acceptable.
Not sure if part if this is in response to my post. If so, I didn't say "positive only" . I said positive based. Yes, there is a time and place for corrections, prong collars, e-collars. But the training should be a good balance based on positive reinforcement. Some dogs do great with just praise. Our youngest boxer does. My GSD needs more motivation than just a pat on the head but compulsion only training, is not the way to go at all.
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Not sure if part if this is in response to my post. If so, I didn't say "positive only" . I said positive based.
Doesn't matter - you can't even mention the word positive without him bringing up "positive only" trainers, even if none of the people responding on the thread actually ARE positive only. Now apparently all those fictitious "positive only" people are actually fanatical "positive only" trainers.

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