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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 12-16-2010, 08:34 PM Thread Starter
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Treats for clicker training

Tonight I tried clicker training for the first time. Was just on my own, and I know I made a lot of mistakes. I decided to try training the perch stance for agility rear leg awareness (and a closer "line up" or "by heel"). I can't believe how effective it is! I can't imagine getting my dog to stand on the perch by forcing her up there with collar corrections. Well, sure I can, but I am surprised how quick she got it with no lead and no collar to yank on! I might just be a convert (but don't tell my positive punishment trainer, I need to read a book first before breaking those ties...)

Anyway- one thing I noticed is that I very quickly ran out of treats. I was using BillJac liver treats that I cut in half. Probably went through 50 treats in 5 mins... that's not a long training session! I grabbed a stuffed squirrel I just bought her and did about 5 more minutes playing tug after each click.

I'm familiar with beef crunchies, but find that even a large chunk of beef dehydrates down into not a lot of treats. And it takes forever to cube it up. It could get expensive pretty quick using beef!

So I'm kind of at a loss. I have heard of frozen peas, but don't have any at the moment to try out. What do you guys use for treats with your clicker training? Remember that I have a 4.5 yr old GSD; I'm not sure if that should (probably not?) affect the size of the treat.

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I like to use the natural balance rolls and string cheese or cubed cheese mixed up. Natural balance is cheap compared to other actual "treats" when you cut into pea-sized pieces and the dog doesn't have to spend time chewing.

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Ah- with the natural balance rolls being a LOT softer than beef, that probably takes no time to cut up. But doesn't it become a sticky mess in your treat bag? I've used bill jac frozen food for treats (since it looks like hamburger, it works well to just "grab a chunk" for a treat) but the soft food ultimately ends up sliming up your hand. Well, that's my experience. Maybe it's different with the NB?

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anything will slime if it comes in contact with a dogs mouth. I don't have much problem with the natural balance and cheese clumping together as long as it is cold. When it warms the NB will crumble. You can freeze it~I do that when I use it for tracking.

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If I'm training Shasta where there aren't a lot of distractions, I use a different kibble than I normally feed. If there are going to be distractions, I cut up either freeze dried liver or cheddar cheese into approximately quarter inch cubes. On the very rare occasions that I plan ahead, I cut enough cheese to last for a few training sessions and put the extra in the freezer, then take it out as needed.

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I first started training with the cheapest hot dogs I could buy. Cut up into pieces the size the dog (or pup)could handle for the age. I also use string cheese. Since she is older now (4 1/2) she enjoys getting a toy for a reward instead. The toy had more value for her as a pup and it didnt work for a reward. She became too vocal. Now the toy draws more focus out of her. I still will reward with food sometimes. Keep changing things to keep it interesting.

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$1 packages of turkey dogs at walmart are perfect when you dice them up into 1/4s. A couple hotdogs a session will leave you spending about a dollar every couple of days. I also use a lot of Zuke's and yogurt drops.

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I use whatever is left over in the fridge or hot dogs.
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You can vary the treat by the distractions around. In a high distraction environment such as a group training class, I would use a mix of chicken breast and some tasty kibble like EVO. Or a mix of chicken and regular kibble, so the kibble has some chicken scent on it, and it's kind of a random reward system - will it be chicken, or kibble with chicken scent?

In the back yard, I can use regular kibble since the distraction level is low.

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Sounds like the $1 turkey dogs from Walmart may be the way to go! Thanks guys!

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