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I have been researching this a little bit, and I am wondering if anyone has experience with a trainer that uses this style of training? Or trained this way?

This site is really interesting:

http://www.tenderfoottraining.com/index.html

Here is their training philosophy:
http://www.tenderfoottraining.com/philosophy.html

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Re: Natural Dog Training

I know someone on another site who has used drive-training with her dog. I've used a little bit with Risa.

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http://www.johnknowsdogs.com/about.htm

Here is another trainer's site using these techniques.
Their Methods:
http://www.johnknowsdogs.com/dog-training-methods.htm

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Re: Natural Dog Training

That's awesome! Did you notice any differences in her results compared with other "methods" of training?

Do you think you could follow this type of program without using other motivators? (clicker, food, shock, etc)

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Re: Natural Dog Training

I basically used it with her reactivity. To give her a release from seeing other dogs, we initiated a session of tuggie. I've also played a lot of tug with her and encouraged her to leap onto me while we engage. But that's about the extent I've done.

Of course, playing tug when seeing other dogs is also counter-conditioning. Changing another dog from being a scary thing to being a positive thing. I've tried a lot of different things for Ris' reactivity and seem to have the most luck just going with the flow and rewarding proper behavior and creating different associations with the scary things.

Most of our training is done with the clicker.

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Re: Natural Dog Training

Okay, at the risk of sounding critical of both these training centers, I'd like to say that I question any trainers who criticize other training methods and tout their own as "the way"..I believe in the "full toolbox" way of thinking. Clicker training may not be for everyone, but it IS based on science.Clicker ARE Not gimmicks..they are tools of communication.
And to dismiss trainers who are certified, by an organization that you belong to, seems odd. I have friends who are CPDTs. They have gone through a lot to get their certification. They are dedicated people who continue their education...that is a critical part of being certified by APDT.

I am curious about any method that works, but see nothing on either website that tells me about this, the only good method.

Please correct me if I'm missing the point.


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Originally Posted By: twonhshepherdsOkay, at the risk of sounding critical of both these training centers, I'd like to say that I question any trainers who criticize other training methods and tout their own as "the way"..I believe in the "full toolbox" way of thinking. Clicker training may not be for everyone, but it IS based on science.Clicker ARE Not gimmicks..they are tools of communication.
And to dismiss trainers who are certified, by an organization that you belong to, seems odd. I have friends who are CPDTs. They have gone through a lot to get their certification. They are dedicated people who continue their education...that is a critical part of being certified by APDT.

I am curious about any method that works, but see nothing on either website that tells me about this, the only good method.

Please correct me if I'm missing the point.
I am big on the clicker, treats and use other tools. So this thread does not reflect my training style. I am a member of the APDT, and defintely respect CPDTs effort to become certified.
But, I am still interested in this style of training.
I agree that I don't like when they point out things that other trainers do to try to make it seem like they are more legit. But, that is a different thread.

The whole gimmick thing aside, what I am looking for is opinions and discussion of Natural Dog Training, which seems to be no extra training tools, besides you and your dog learning to communicate.

*I don't think that the tenderfoot site focused on discrediting other styles and tools, but seem to be focusing more on promoting their style? Although, the other site is a bit candid in their opinions of training tools, and I think that is not necessary. But it is their website but people will pick up on that and it may be a big plus to some and a definite no-no to others.

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Re: Natural Dog Training

Another note, the two centers I referenced to are not the only trainers using this method, and I do not mean to focus on them, but the actual training style/method of "Natural" training.

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Natural Dog Training Blog

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Re: Natural Dog Training

Awesome! Thank you for the link!

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