Thank you everyone!! I'm gonna reply to everyone individually to keep my thoughts organized haha, but we are definitely gonna go through these suggestions until we get what works FOR US.
She got better by the end of the class. The owners were just standing in front of her to block her view before this happened. Very different approaches I guess.
They were putting curtains around him to block his view from the other dogs. He wouldn't bark until the other puppies did but, like Sabis said, german shepherd puppies love having the last word!! But, after a little while the curtains stopped working because he knows the dogs are around him. Even if he doesn't see them he can still bark at them, he's too smart for their little tricks. But maybe if we do the whole blocking off thing rather than their curtains and show him we are what's important not everything around him then this might help.
I don't think your trainer understands that GSD puppies are all afflicted with Last Word Syndrome!
I am not sure I would be paying for classes where I was being told to leave every time my puppy barked. I get the attention thing, but a puppy class is for puppies. Puppies are mouthy.
Ain't that the truth!! Last Word Syndrome, I love it! I was thinking the same thing!! He always has to have the last word. We knew what we were getting in to before we got another GSD puppy. We can handle his mouthiness haha. It's easier at home in our own environment rather than when the instructor is talking to everyone and Obi wants to have a conversation with us. The sending us outside didn't happen until the last 10 minutes but it was still annoying and got me thinking the same thing. What am I paying for if we aren't in there. Luckily my brother was with me and said he would keep track of each lesson when we were sent out. Like you said, I definitely understand the importance of it though. Hopefully we have solved the problem before our next class on Tuesday, but if I need to I will talk to the instructor and voice my concerns.
I'm not a big fan of shoving treats into the dog's mouth for every little thing, nor do I think that timeouts are an especially effective method of deminishing his barking in class....
But focus on it I would, because you don't want your puppy to continue to think it's okay to act that way! And teaching him there's a right time to pay attention and focus won't in any way squash his personality or communication at other times.
Thank you for the reassurance. I can say that it was in the back of my mind that teaching him not to bark there would change the way he is outside of class. I love our talkative little guy, but I want him to know that training is his job right now, even he is an adorable ball of fur. You're also exactly right, he was so excited to go out of the class and wanted to play with me. He did want to go back in the class though, he jumped at the door and it was obvious but he got over it immediately. So it doesn't seem like either of their 2 ways are gonna work. It also is indeed a positive class like you said. I really don't like drowning him in treats. When he is first learning something, then sure treats are cool but, not when he knows it and will do the command any other time. So we brought out our clicker and used that lower the amount of treats. He already knows the click means a treat is coming.
Once you can turn it on, then you can turn it off
I also have ethical issues with a trainer not addressing an issue in class.
It is so hard sometimes not to laugh at his sassiness! It's still really cute haha. I actually really like your idea of the on and off switch. We actually just started doing that with Up and off. I didn't think of teaching him speak yet, he already does it so much. I'm gonna start that for sure. I'm definitely not gonna keep with the leaving that class thing all the time, if that's their only other option then they have lost us. Hopefully during the next week I can find what works for us and do things our own way and enjoy the class.
I feel like it's a missed training/correction opportunity for you guys.
..... and will reset him in his position.
..... Maybe talk to the trainer on the side - I mean this is a class full of dogs - of course some are going to bark.
I completely agree. Instead of sending us out I feel like we should have been trying different ways to get Obi's attention. Tricks worked to get him to do something else, but after the start of their class he just wanted treats. With the week in between the classes we will have a chance to reset and get things going our own way. Worst case I will talk to the trainer, but hopefully we get things moving our own way.
GSDs are too smart sometimes for training that works for other dogs! So had to switch up and go with the ignore option instead.
I definitely agree. Ignore will definitely be something we do more at home if it comes down to it. Doing that at home will be much easier than at the trainers, cause he can bark all he wants until he gets the picture.