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To Neuter or not to Neuter... That is the question...

I am debating if I should neuter my pup at the vet recommended 5 months old, the breeder recommended 12-18 months old… or if I should stud him out. Both his parents/grandparents and more, especially on his sire’s line, have been health and temperament tested. He is a very good pup; very calm, lovable, and easy to train. If he can produce litters half as good as he is, it would be a benefit for the breed. I just don’t know if there is a market or need for it; seeing all the great pups and dogs on this page. German Shepherds seem to be an excellent breed all around. What do you all think? Looking forward to all expert and non-expert advice. Before I make any definite decision, I will definitely get all testing needed beforehand (hips, elbows, cardiac, DM, etc.), and would require the same of any mate.
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I am leaning towards the later neuter option nowadays. Just seems like a good idea to let the dog develop as "naturally" as possible before going in and snipping out organs.

Ever compare the size of a steer to a non-altered bull? Steer get HUGE, bulls get big but nowhere near the size of a steer. GSDs are already at risk for bone/joint issue and adding any size to the equation can't be beneficial. I don't know if cow vs. dog size development correlates in any way, but it's something to think about at least.

As to the vet vs. breeder thing. That is your call. Both parties have unique knowledge. One is a specialist in the the breed(breeder) and one is a generalist with much better knowledge of physiology(vet) and many years of study and practical application of that knowledge. Ask both parties why they chose XX age to get the snip-a-roo done, compare/contrast.

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IMO, wait to neuter. Not because your dog is destined to be a stud, but because of the health benefits of remaining intact through their growth periods. At the clinic I work at our vets do not recommend altering large breed dogs until they are over 14 months.

As for stud, your pup is under 5 months old. You have no idea what his adult personality is yet, and no idea of his final conformation. You have plenty of years (at least two!) to wait to see if he makes the cut to one day sire a litter. You're absolutely on the right track with all your testing, and that's fantastic! Don't forget titles and training, too. Enjoy your time, explore all the sports you can with him, and most of all POST PICS!


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Thanks for the input, it gives me something to think about. Has anyone had any problem with a spraying male? I think that is the biggest fear I have with waiting to neuter. Especially since he will be an indoor dog. He starts his training this coming Saturday, I'm excited about that
Here he is during leash training... he figured out if he stops, he gets a treat to start back up, gotta love those ears.

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Spraying male? Hmm. I reckon that's probably the same as marking, but correct me if I'm wrong. Lifting the leg to pee, right? If you don't want him marking, train him not to. My males aren't allowed to mark on walks. Too messy and I hate stopping for it. You won't have to worry about it until five months at the EARLIEST, probably closer to 8 months on average. Some never hike a leg.


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Yes, marking... I have heard it called spraying, I don't know. My Shih Tzu has been fixed since he was 4 months old so we never went through it. Marking outside would not be a problem, I just don't want them marking in the house which is what I have heard some say they do if you don't get them fixed in time.
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Yes, marking... I have heard it called spraying, I don't know. My Shih Tzu has been fixed since he was 4 months old so we never went through it. Marking outside would not be a problem, I just don't want them marking in the house which is what I have heard some say they do if you don't get them fixed in time.
I'm gonna have to call that more of a wives' tale than anything else! Like anything, if you let them they can... with proper housetraining it really shouldn't be any more of an issue then him pooping in your living room, haha!


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I'm gonna have to call that more of a wives' tale than anything else! Like anything, if you let them they can... with proper housetraining it really shouldn't be any more of an issue then him pooping in your living room, haha!

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Very informational... I will be looking into it before I make a decision. I want my boy to be has healthy as possible! Thank you for sharing.
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