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First Bitch

There's this bitch that has been for sale since around Thanksgiving. She is drop...dead...freaking...gorgeous with a pedigree to DIE for. 16 months old, OFA Prelims done and CLEAR (OFA Good Elbows Normal), ears up and firm, great personality, a little extreme in the rear for my taste but could be taken to something less extreme. Elegant, a little light on bone, but she is, again, proportionate, nice neck (maybe a little long).

Long story short, this bitch that started out at $2500 around Thanksgiving is now being offered for NO money exchanged. All the breeder wants is for her to be SHOWN and either have someone handle another bitch for her for a few shows, and/or ONE breeding back on THIS particular bitch (I would look over the contract forward and backwards).


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The bitch in question:


Here she is when she was first offered for sale:


Hopefully talks will progress and I'll go see her to evaluate

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Re: First Bitch

oh jackie....sounds perfect for you..i know squat about lines and such.....but she looks nice and what a deal. hope it works out for you if it turns out to be what you are wanting!

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Re: First Bitch

Thanks ! I'm hoping so too I believe she's just in Indiana, so I'd grab another GSD person and a video camera to take a look.

I can evaluate movement with lots of video, but what I REALLY want (because it can be sketchy in a few AmBred lines) is to see temperament and reactions to noise.

I don't normally care for so much linebreeding, but for a "starter bitch" when you want to breed, it can be fantastic.

Select quality? No. Finishable? Yes. And she would DEFINITELY do more than just conformation, which could please the breeder :-)

She's old enough that I don't have to worry about ears, and young enough that I feel comfortable taking her on and she can learn plenty of new things.

Her OFA prelims are also done already (Good hips normal elbows) so I know in that regard that at least right NOW she isn't a flop in the joints department.

I'd like shorter pasterns. I think hers are strong, just a little long.

Fingers crossed!

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Jackie I see that you have already said you will look over the contract, it might not be a bad idea to have some one else look it over also, a set of eyes that have no vested interest in the deal. A person to play devil's advocate.

Write down you numbers, what it is going to cost you. Also take in to account that by showing the bitch you are increasing the value of the bitch.

Not a bad looking bitch, I agree she is a little more extreme than I like, but she has a very nice top line, her pasterns have firmed up, she could use more angle on the front shoulders.

Do you have a head shot?

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Quote:Jackie I see that you have already said you will look over the contract, it might not be a bad idea to have some one else look it over also, a set of eyes that have no vested interest in the deal. A person to play devil's advocate.
I'm already arranging to take 2-3 extra sets of eyes with me that can be more objective

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Quoteo you have a head shot?
Not current...the one I have is from when she was first available and it's an icky puppy head shot. I do think she may be a bit narrow, but there are some nice boys with much better heads that could "fix" that. It's more in her cheeks than her actual skull (I call it "Flat
cheeked")

I try very VERY hard to keep my eyes open and not become jaded or kennel blind.

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In the older shot the first one, it looks like she has some width to her muzzle, but maybe a bit of a roman bump in there. Her stop could be better, a bit of a ski slope. LOL but now I am being really picky.


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Re: First Bitch

She appears a bit dishfaced in the photo, but it also seems a little blurred.

I'm picking her faults, but I'm being careful because, as you know, pictures can cause illusions. I DO see the small roman nose however.

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Re: First Bitch

Not really up on the show lines, but she looks nice. I just wanted to comment on the "stacking blocks". What a great concept! Is that something used commonly amongst "show" people?
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She looks nice, and she will do some filling out as she gets older too. Those block stacking photos crack me up too!
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They're called "Happy Legs" and they're $200 a set! Better to make your own or use soup cans/bricks! This is a very common method though :-)

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