Jane, sorry about Karlo, that is awful. Glad he is going to make it.
It is great to have this conversation though because it brings up something that is very important: we are NOT familiar with the staff at the E-vet and they are NOT familiar with us. Insisting upon handling our own dogs, or slamming them with questions, etc, it is not the time or the place. We sometimes need to step back and let them do their job, so that our dog has the best chance of survival. Which it sounds like you did. So this is really in general, something we can think about before it happens, and not be upset by it when it does.
At my vet, the only one who has ever suggested a muzzle or put one on, has been me, and it has always been unnecessary. But, I would rather be safe than sorry, and it won't kill the dog to have a muzzle during something that might hurt or be very scary. This is really rare for me. But, I have put a muzzle on one or two of them for something or other over the years. They (my vet) are great about letting me be right there and answering my questions -- all but surgery.
The repro-vet that is a couple of hours away, is a 24 hour clinic, and they even let you watch surgeries, and you are there all the time with your dog, etc.
But the e-vet (which I hate to go to, and really don't trust, because you never see the same vet twice there and so forth), they are there for emergencies. I will ONLY go there if I think the longer trip might be detrimental to the chances my dog has of living. But because there is no relationship there, it's good to remember or to think about it when we are not in the middle of a crisis, that it has NOTHING to do with us. It is about the dog. It is not they they don't trust us to hold our own dog, it is that they DO trust their vet tech to hold any dog. They do not know us at all, and if we don't get stuff like that straight before walking through the door, we can impede treatment for our dog by taking things personally and being irritated.
Yes, I agree with dogs being familiar with crates, because some day they may have to be crated at a vet's office, and we really don't want them to be weirded out by the crate itself.
I used to take them in just to weigh them. I still do, but now I want to know the weights. But I really want my dogs to be "normal" at the vet's office, so that when they are hurt or ill or acting oddly, they are not masking that with overall fearful behavior. Mine really don't have a problem at the vet. I'm generally relaxed about what is going to happen, so they are too.
Case in point: my dad was raised Christian Science, in a time when you go to hospitals to die. He has a real aversion to anything to do with medicine, hospitals, doctors, dentists, etc, even though the religion has changed to one that doesn't hold the same views. When he would take Cujo to the vet, the dog would shake and be totally scared. When I would take Cujo to the vet, the dog was happy and fine and wagging his tail. I think being more familiar with the vet's office, can help ourselves as well as our dogs. Popping a mint in your mouth might help too, especially if it is a visit that is scarier for us. I think a lot of times, we get uptight worrying about how our dog is going to be, and our dog senses that uptightness, and has no idea why we are uptight, but it must be bad. Who knows what is going through their brains. Susie's scared, something bad is going to happen.
I am kind of a no-nonsense person. If I want to put a muzzle on my dog, I am just going to do it. Same with cutting toenails. Just do it, quickly, and don't put up with any baloney, and the quicker it is done the quicker the dog knows we aren't trying to kill him, and he isn't stuck in a very bad space for hours while we get through with all 18. So, I don't condition a dog to a muzzle. Most of mine never need it, and if they ever do, the reaction I always get, is that they trust me enough to let me put it on in the heat of the moment where it is required, and it is then off so quickly that it becomes no big deal. If it will help to condition them to it, then do that. But my dogs have never seen the muzzle before and may never see it again, so they don't get a chance to really object to it before it is all over.
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Last edited by selzer; 07-14-2017 at 07:18 PM.