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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-30-2013, 09:14 PM Thread Starter
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Question to the AKC confirmation peeps

I have a puppy. A stunning puppy( I think at least), but not an ASL dog. In fact he is DDR/Czech, black sable.

I thought it would be fun to show him in some AKC conformation shows. For exposure, experience, and cause ( why not?).

I personally hate the separation in the breed. I hate the discourse and complaining. And I figure you should show what YOU think is to standard and the judges can't put up dogs that don't show. So if I think my puppy is to standard, then I should put him out there.

Am I being stupid? Would my pup be welcomed? How does one go about " picking" judges to show under? Is there somewhere you can look at the dogs that judges have picked? A central database? Would he have a better chance if I used a pro handler?

I do plan on doing German style showing as well, and fingers crossed getting a Koer rating. But I wanna get him into as many venues as possible.

Any help or insight would be great. PM is fine if there are things you don't want to say on the board. I am in Maryland if that makes a difference.




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I have toyed with ASL ring, and did well in puppy matches, and am a member of a GSD club where the ASL is the typical line of members.

I would not show the dog in a specialty show because you will just waste your money, and probably be the recipient of some nasty comments. I mean, as hard as it is to get enough dogs together for a major, a member of my club entered her GSL dog to help them get a major, and she heard some really crappy comments from other people about her dog. I don't think you want to expose yourself or your dog to that.

GSL dogs do better in the ALL breed shows. If you have a nice working line dog, I have to think he would do better there than the specialty rings. And I think there are sieger shows here in the US. That might be your best venue.

There really is too much politics in dog showing that you will ever see a Czech dog be put up in a specialty conformation show.

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Yeah. I know specialties are OUT!!! I really just want to get him out. Show what I think a correct GSD should be.

I have zero delusions that he will win a lot, if at all. But I don't want to be part of the problem. I would rather put out what I like and let others see my boy.

In the long run, it's about getting my boy out, having fun together, and being around other GSD people of all types.

I talked with a good friend who is uber successful in the AKC show ring, with terriers, and she gave me some good feedback about showing and what to expect.

I am going to start with a B match. Just to get out there and see what happens.


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post #4 of 20 (permalink) Old 08-31-2013, 07:23 AM
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go for it,

I showed my male who was ddr/asl , he did not step out of the ring without getting an RWD, of course always a best man never a groom I did it because I wanted to learn and he was a great dog to learn with.

I agree , go to all breed shows..I'd start with matches if you can find any, they aren't out there like they used to be years ago.

As for being welcome, well I found the matches are much more welcoming/fun than the shows..There are some that are friendly, others that will ignore you because 'they' have the best dogs

I'll never forget my first show, I had a handler and stayed away from the ring because I did not want to be one of those "double handlers"..Anyhow, Iwas in thegrooming area, dodge was in the ring for BOB, this high profile handlers wife came charging over yelling "who owns that black dog?" I said "I do why?" "oh" and just turned and walked away..Not to friendly, my dog was certainly the "talk" of the ringside that day "who is he?" blah blah blah..He took a RWD over the 'wife's' husband who was handling a well known dog,

Fun while I did it, the politics was ridiculous, learned it, didit, got out of it.

But GO FOR IT!.

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I agree with Diane. If you don't show you can't win.

Do you have a stacked photo of him?
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No advice, just encouragement. Go out there and do it!!

I don't show dogs (yet), but I do go to dog shows, and speaking as a spectator, it is really refreshing and encouraging to see different types of GSDs in the venue.

Just expect that you might get hassled by some Maryland version of me who is desperately eager to learn more about your dog and pesters you mercilessly after your run.

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The AKC ring can be fun
#1. if you don't take it too seriously.
#2. can take some well meaning unsolicited criticism and advice.
#3. if you make it fun for your dog and learn to block out the crap.

I think he's a nice looking puppy

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I would also take some handling classes if you can find them in your area..They were sooooo educational for me and the dog I had was such a great student , another great learning experience

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I plan on taking a handling class, if I actually decide to do it. One of our localish training clubs offer them.

And I have a very thick skin. I can take criticism, constructive or not. I want it to be fun.


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