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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 02-15-2012, 05:26 PM Thread Starter
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sable gsd seiger

i am new to the site and had a queston about seiger show can a sable gsd will seiger show or are they in there own class ?
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if you are talking about the SV Sieger show , don't hold your breath -- they are all black and reds .
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Carmen.....give me a chance, here in the USA.
I am trying to break through *again*....but with a sable , black or bi-color.....I might die trying though....
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They're not their own class, they compete against the black and reds, but since that is the favorite coat a sable barely stands a chance. Also doesn't help that sables are supposed to be lean and skinny and look like puppies next to big bad red and blacks.
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I am trying to break through *again*....but with a sable , black or bi-color.....I might die trying though....
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Wasn't Timo VA2? And David Plank is campaigning his sable Waiko for a VA rating.

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They're not their own class, they compete against the black and reds, but since that is the favorite coat a sable barely stands a chance. Also doesn't help that sables are supposed to be lean and skinny and look like puppies next to big bad red and blacks.
I really don't think show line sables are as stigmatized as people think. There just aren't that many show line sables, and there aren't many VA dogs let alone the Sieger so it stands to reason that with such a small percentage of dogs, the Sieger isn't going to be sable.

I've personally seen several sable dogs, both working lines and show lines, win their classes at SV shows. I've seen a lot of crap go on at shows but don't recall ever feeling a dog was denied a placement *because* it was sable. Margit van Dorssen's "Arlett" kennel has had several successful sable dogs.
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I want to break through with a 1/2 WL & 1/2 SL dog into the VA group.....
If I can win a *Protection Award* also.....it will make all the difference in the world.
I plan on showing and competing with my WL sable female in next years Sieger Show....I want to work hard for a good V placing and an award for bite-work..... I realize my goals are high...but without goals......I'm just another GSD breeder, and my life is missing some "meaning" for me.
*I know.....I sound crazy.*

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I'm rooting for you Robin!! (not that that is worth anything, LOL)
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Not crazy, Robin, just motivated! Hey if you have any progeny you want shown, my next purchase will be a "show" dog (doesn't have to be 100% show, just a show line type that I can have fun showing)...
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You tell me "when"...and I'll make sure that it is a *special* one......you and Carlos can make the decision.

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