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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 09-21-2011, 11:51 AM Thread Starter
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Critque/tips?

I'm just crazy enough to show my working-line puppy in conformation next month. She's 9 months old now and we've started conformation classes. She's getting better at stacking, but I'm having a hard time keeping her nose out of the grass when we gait. She does much better when our "judge" has a treat waiting for her when she comes back--better extension, better expression, etc. I am trying to get hubby to take an interest in double-handling but he is nonplussed about the whole thing. Any ideas?

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Stacking--it looks like I need to set her front legs straighter. Any other suggestions?
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not to discourage you , but I don't think she will do well in american show --- .
I am a real cheerleader for Sontausen dogs --- great temperament , great tracking drives -- I would love for you to prove me wrong , but I do believe the comments coming back will be "restricted movement" front and rear .

Before you head into a point show take her out to some inexpensive sanction matches which are to help train newby dogs and newby handlers . You can go to the judge afterwards and ask for a critique on the dog and reason for the decision in their placement.

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For USA/WDA/SV style - you should be the double handler - she will be less likely to stick her nose on the ground and will pull more if someone else is on the lead and you are out front (or if she is like mine! hiding somewhere and occasionally calling her!) If you are doing AKC - I have no clue...avoid that ring coz it makes me sad when I am at shows...

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I am not qualified to critique, but I do read all the critique threads because I find it very interesting. There was a thread not long ago (and I can't find it for the life of me) where someone pointed out that there is a term used when the front legs are forward and not straight. I don't recall the term, but I do recall that the front legs need to be perfectly vertical. In your stacked photo, your dog's legs are forward a bit...

I also want to say that I've not seen a photo of you where you didn't look super happy. That's neat...

Geez- I totally missed this:
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Stacking--it looks like I need to set her front legs straighter.

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not to discourage you , but I don't think she will do well in american show --- .
I am a real cheerleader for Sontausen dogs --- great temperament , great tracking drives -- I would love for you to prove me wrong , but I do believe the comments coming back will be "restricted movement" front and rear .
Oh, I know that. I don't expect to win. I just love to see working dogs in the conformation ring--of any breed--and so I figured, why not? It's something different. I've never done conformation before.

Plus that, one of Julia's dogs has been nominated for some kind of award, and we need to show that the offspring have no disqualifying faults. We can do that either by going up to a judge at a show, asking him/her to sign a form saying such, or we can simply do it by entering a show.

To tell you the truth, winning scares me more than losing. I just want to present her correctly and not make a laughingstock of us or waste the judge's time. Here we have an inexperienced handler with a working-line puppy ( who will probably come into heat just in time for the show). Ack! I'm trying to just concentrate on making it fun for both of us, but truth be told, I'm pretty nervous about it!
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I know relatively little about showing SV style, and nothing about AKC. But I do know working dogs CAN win! I put mine in two shows, one of them regional, and he took first in his class in both!
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Try puttine your collar just behind her ears and then tightening up on the leash. /that will help to hold her head up. Depending on the judge, I would think you will be alright. Is the show inside or out?
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Wildo , the term was bridged -- that is a stacking problem where the handler places the legs forward of the shoulder instead of straight underneath.
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Wildo , the term was bridged -- that is a stacking problem where the handler places the legs forward of the shoulder instead of straight underneath.
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Ah! Yes! Thanks!! I just couldn't remember the thread I saw that in...

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Freestep I am all for Julia getting the award !
Can you select the venue , as in SV style conformation show , american show . If you select the later choose for an all-breed judge instead of a specialty that will look for more exaggerated angulations.

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