7 Month Old - Please Help - German Shepherd Dog Forums
 9Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-19-2017, 10:44 PM Thread Starter
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 4
Unhappy 7 Month Old - Please Help

My dog was diagnosed with moderate to severe hip dysplasia today and I am completely at a loss. He is very much part of my family. My vet doesn't think he will be a good candidate for surgery due to the shallow sockets. Also, due to his age, she thinks he can be well managed with supplements and noninvasive methods. I attached his x-ray. I am looking for any advice or help on what to do, good supplements, etc. I feel so bad for him.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	41289-20171119141933293-original.jpg
Views:	59
Size:	46.6 KB
ID:	460610  
Rex8717 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-20-2017, 09:55 PM
Crowned Member
 
Mary Beth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Pierre, South Dakota
Posts: 5,129
This article discusses non surgical options for treating hip dysplasia:

https://www.caninejournal.com/canine-hip-dysplasia/

These older threads also have more information:

https://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...dysplasia.html

https://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...dysplasia.html

https://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...ease-help.html

https://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...dysplasia.html
Chip18 and tim_s_adams like this.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Royal K9s Baron Sting DB 7/9/2017


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Sting Chance von Gaard 2006-2017
Mary Beth is offline  
post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-20-2017, 10:00 PM
Knighted Member
 
tim_s_adams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Colorado
Posts: 3,395
I'm no expert at reading x-rays, but interested to see what others on the board might comment. To me, the sockets do look shallow. Hopefully some of the more experienced folks with x-rays reading will chime in soon .. @carmspack, @selzer, @cliffson1
Chip18 likes this.

It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. Mark Twain

Tim
tim_s_adams is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-20-2017, 11:33 PM
Crowned Member
 
selzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Denmark, Ohio
Posts: 31,540
Not the best positioning, but I have to agree that it looks like both hips do not have the coverage, and are dsyplastic.

The good news is that it is not a death sentence. How old is your dog? Surgery is a possibility -- depending on what symptoms you are seeing regularly. Go to a specialist. And educate yourself there are several types of hip surgeries. One replaces the hip joint FHO. Another cleans the femoral heads. I think one removes the head. Another cuts the tendon. Some are more and some are less invasive.

There are things you can give the dog to help the joint, things you can do -- low impact exercise, things not to do.
cliffson1 and tim_s_adams like this.

Heidi Ho, Odie
Joy-Joy, Bear Cub, Hepsi-Pepsi
Cujo2, Karma Chameleon
Ramona the Pest, Kojak -- who loves you baby?
Tiny Tinnie, Susie's Uzzi, Kaiah -- The Baby Monster.
selzer is offline  
post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-21-2017, 12:12 AM Thread Starter
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 4
Thank you guys for some feedback. He is 7 months old currently. I got him to be a competition dog (mainly agility) so this is incredibly disheartening for me and him. I am going to speak to a orthopedic specialist next week and get their feedback as well. I'm also looking into some hydrotherapy locations around my area to begin taking him to.

I was looking into the surgeries as well and there is an overwhelming amount of information out there. It's hard to sort through everything in any kind of meaningful fashion. His main symptoms are he shows a lot of stiffness in his back half and will take abnormally long naps after working. I included another view I received, I'm not sure which is better positioning (if either are good positioning).
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	41289-20171119142111396-original.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	52.1 KB
ID:	460722  
Rex8717 is offline  
post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-21-2017, 06:24 AM
Crowned Member
 
cliffson1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,445
I agree with Selzer....her comments are my thoughts also.
tim_s_adams likes this.
cliffson1 is offline  
post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-22-2017, 11:00 PM
Crowned Member
 
selzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Denmark, Ohio
Posts: 31,540
Quote:
Originally Posted by megpilcher View Post
Thank you guys for some feedback. He is 7 months old currently. I got him to be a competition dog (mainly agility) so this is incredibly disheartening for me and him. I am going to speak to a orthopedic specialist next week and get their feedback as well. I'm also looking into some hydrotherapy locations around my area to begin taking him to.

I was looking into the surgeries as well and there is an overwhelming amount of information out there. It's hard to sort through everything in any kind of meaningful fashion. His main symptoms are he shows a lot of stiffness in his back half and will take abnormally long naps after working. I included another view I received, I'm not sure which is better positioning (if either are good positioning).
Yeah, well, I think surgeries or no surgeries, agility is probably not a good choice for your pup. Novice obedience, Novice Rally, Nosework, maybe other stuff will be fine. But I don't think you should school this dog over jumps.

You might want to have a discussion with the breeder. Do you have a warranty on hips? Most of them require the dog be returned, and by 7 months you are probably attached to the dog. But go back and read through it, and give the breeder a call. It depends on how the warranty reads, if there is one.

Carmspac had a lot of good nutritional advice for hip-health, things you can do to give your puppy the best chances for the least symptoms.

Heidi Ho, Odie
Joy-Joy, Bear Cub, Hepsi-Pepsi
Cujo2, Karma Chameleon
Ramona the Pest, Kojak -- who loves you baby?
Tiny Tinnie, Susie's Uzzi, Kaiah -- The Baby Monster.
selzer is offline  
post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-23-2017, 02:36 AM Thread Starter
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 4
Yes, I spoke with the breeder. The good news is his contract has guaranteed hips for life and if there are issues, we can receive a refund or new puppy whenever we're ready (and there is an available litter) without having to return him. That was a huge relief to me since I am rather attached! Therefore, worst case scenario at this point is I manage any pain for him and keep him working in low impact sports and get another little monster to do the higher impact sports like agility. I also have OFA records for both his parents and they are both Excellent by OFA but I know it can still happen unfortunately.

I have been told that at best the hip is loose and at worse he has dysplasia by the multitude of people I've talked to since his initial diagnosis. There seems to be a general consensus that the x-rays aren't fantastic positioning.

After talking to just about whoever I could think of (the vet, 2 orthopedic specialists, the breeder, etc.), I have come up with a plan on putting him on glucosamine supplements and water therapy for the next few months while continuing light impact sports (e.g., nosework, novice obedience, novice rally, etc.). He has not done any jump work at this point in agility (since he is so young and still growing) and only foundation work so I feel comfortable continuing with foundations right now (definitely no jumps). I did talk to the instructor and let her know what is going on so she is aware. I am going to have x-rays done again at a year old with one of the specialists that will hopefully position him better and see where we stand at that point.
selzer and Mary Beth like this.
Rex8717 is offline  
post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-23-2017, 04:07 PM
Crowned Member
 
selzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Denmark, Ohio
Posts: 31,540
It may be really a good idea to talk to Carmen (Carmspac). She has reams of advice on what to feed and what not to feed for health hips. Vitamin C is good, but it has to be the right kind, properly sourced and in a form the dog's system can use it properly.

I am glad you are not going to get another puppy yet. It will be much better to wait until after you have the hips checked after a year. Then there will be a little distance between the two and your foundation work with the current puppy will pay dividends.

Good luck.

Heidi Ho, Odie
Joy-Joy, Bear Cub, Hepsi-Pepsi
Cujo2, Karma Chameleon
Ramona the Pest, Kojak -- who loves you baby?
Tiny Tinnie, Susie's Uzzi, Kaiah -- The Baby Monster.
selzer is offline  
post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-23-2017, 04:14 PM
Crowned Member
 
wolfy dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 9,463
I would avoid neutering to maintain the benefit of his testosterone, which assists in muscle development. I you are able to get good muscle on him later on (swimming), it can help keep the joint in place
My first dog was displastic but being muscled helped him into old age. I realize that every case is different though.
wolfy dog is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the German Shepherd Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome