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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-15-2012, 08:57 PM Thread Starter
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A good training day

Well today was Beau's 2nd time on the boat doing water cadaver
and his 1st time doing shoreline.

I get there and I am told--"you are doing everything blind" (iow I don't have a clue where it is) - yikes. Well I don't even have an indication worked out yet for the boat. (it is hard because his normal indication is a sit or a down but those are good working positions in the boat - so we are considering a more active trained indication such as a bark...still not sure...but all I had to go on was reading him.) Nailed it! The good Lord blessed Beau with a very expressive tail and an intent gaze and he naturally followed the odor and was easier for me to read than Grim who had certified on water several years running and has made some water finds in real life.

For the shoreline problems - the first one he stood in the water straddling the aid starting at me with this confused look, and I said "he's on it" and the other person said ' "yes" so I had to prompt his indication to sit in the water. The second one he found and offered an automatic sit in the water.

Now the bad part - ahem. Once we got back to shore from the boat problem he was just all full of himself and jumped out of the boat having a grand old time in the water completely blowing me off when I called him to come out. Of course it did not help that everyone was laughing at his antics because he was being about as puppy as they come. So I was given some direction from the police trainer who came to watch to crank down on his obedience even more.

The other advice was to detail cars on my own faster and make my presentation more consistent (just build up the pattern without the dog for awhile) because, while he was quite patient with me, he could work a lot faster. Those police folks just don't care about your feelings. Hahahaha...I was told that watching me work as car was as exciting as watching paint dry. Of course, not being particularly graceful, running backwards around a car while sweeping my hand to areas to search while not touching the car and not getting hit by the rearview mirrors requires some level of coordination

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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-16-2012, 07:45 AM
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nancy, sounds like Beau is doing REALLY GOOD!,,,I was laughing at his water antics, he was probably celebrating and offering some comic relief)) GOOD JOB!!

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That sounds fantastic I would love to just watch that!
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He did his job and that's what counts, finesse comes later but it sounds like he's already got it

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I have been very much pleased with him to be sure even it he can be a bit of a brat. Fortunately his temperament is stellar.

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You can train a scratch in the boat. All of mine do. Unless the dog is going to hang over the side and bark,it will not be definitive enough. Also, I would not allow blind searches on a green dog. you need to know where the training aid is in order to help him if he needs. I never do blinds on a green dog
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My boat driver knew where it was but he let me direct the search (they gave me an area but he had it marked with a GPS) and I am sure if we had come to trouble with it he would have stepped in...I did not reward without cofirmation from him.... You could have shot a line from his head to the source ...I got it from one side circled around went upwind (we had a steady breeze which was lucky for us) got a negative circle back around and bam. He stayed calm and focused until we got right up on and he lurched up and leaned over the edge. Had he not done so well the first time we would not have done it that way. Actually with the GPS it was better for me because I *had* to watch the dog.

I know some who use the scratch as a solid indication.

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post #8 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-17-2012, 09:04 AM
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Good for you Nancy, tha'ts the way I'd handle it too. the less the handler knows the better ha ha ha.

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Well, we all do things differently. I just do not want a blind on an untrained dog. If the dog needs guidance,I want to provide it. Plenty time later for blinds. And I put a final trained response on a dog before working scenarios. To each his own
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Mine don't work blinds until they know the odor. Once they know the odor, it's nothing but blind. That means there is a lot of training to do, but the handler has to learn as well as the dog. The trainer has to be able, and ready to step in and assist as needed. I believe the faster you get to blind problems, the better the training as a team becomes.

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