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Bottcher harness

For those of you that have used a bottcher harness in tracking, what collar do you connect it to? Flat, fur saver, pinch? I can't let my dog pull so hard when we start tracking again initially to protect her Iliopsoas. I don't want to put a lot of obedience on her tracking just slow her down and keep her from pushing off hard with her hind legs. My knees and back would appreciate it too.

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I don't think the Bottcher will be much help with that. It helps keep their head down, but I think they can still pull into it as easy as a collar alone.

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Truth is, I think the number 1 thing that slows them down, is obedience.

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Truth is, I think the number 1 thing that slows them down, is obedience.
Kind of late for that and not applicable to trailing, which is the fundamental point of tracking for me.

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Trailing is completely different than our tracking. And Steve is right - obedience to the track slows them down. Food slows them down. Added corners slows them down.

Our collars and harnesses don't slow them. I want my dog to pull into the collar and keep the line taught. You would be better off asking people that do your type of tracking.




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Trailing is completely different than our tracking. And Steve is right - obedience to the track slows them down. Food slows them down. Added corners slows them down.

Our collars and harnesses don't slow them. I want my dog to pull into the collar and keep the line taught. You would be better off asking people that do your type of tracking.
Yes which is why I chose AKC tracking, not knocking IPO tracking at all, posted here with the idea a botcher rig might help.
She's definitely motivated to track and turns don't slow her down much at all.
Will go back to littering the track with food and give her 1-2' of line, see if that slows her down, just don't want her pulling hard into her harness and firing off her back legs until Apr/May.

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Kind of late for that and not applicable to trailing, which is the fundamental point of tracking for me.
I don't mean obedience specific to the style of tracking. I mean obedience as in settle down and focus, you aren't pulling me like that.

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Trailing is completely different than our tracking. And Steve is right - obedience to the track slows them down. Food slows them down. Added corners slows them down.

Our collars and harnesses don't slow them. I want my dog to pull into the collar and keep the line taught. You would be better off asking people that do your type of tracking.
Full disclosure, I know Aus and Yana so I knew what he was looking for with tracking. I was being general instead of any kind of training detail.

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I don't mean obedience specific to the style of tracking. I mean obedience as in settle down and focus, you aren't pulling me like that.
Argh I'm trying..

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