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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-15-2016, 09:04 PM Thread Starter
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Opinions on Mals competing in Schutzhund/IPO

I am curious as to everyone's opinions on Mals being good Schutzhund/ IPO dogs.

Do you think they are as good for the sport as GSDs?
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I'd say they're decent...
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I'd say they're decent...
Why do you think only decent?
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Sorry trying to joke. Malinois clearly can excel at IPO. Very flashy, very correct, and they love the work. Get the right one for the job and you'll see they were born for it.
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So if a flashy and correct mal excels at IPO... is it still an appropriate breed test for GSDs?
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IPO is all about the training anymore, rather than focusing on the heart of the dog.
Mals do excel in this sport, they have raised the bar for the points in judging, IMO.
GSD's can compete with the Mal, in the OB phase, the mal will generally get more points...but in protection and in the tracking, I do believe the GSD shows more of what is natural instinct, and the training is not the focus quite so much.
Mals tend to be more handler focused too....so tracking on their own with that line let out could be more of a challenge. But, I don't have or train a mal, this is just my own observation and opinion.
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From what I've seen Mals are quicker and more intense than GSDs. Some think of it as a good thing, and some think it's a bad thing. Depends on what exactly you're doing with one.
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IPO is all about the training anymore, rather than focusing on the heart of the dog.
Mals do excel in this sport, they have raised the bar for the points in judging, IMO.
GSD's can compete with the Mal, in the OB phase, the mal will generally get more points...but in protection and in the tracking, I do believe the GSD shows more of what is natural instinct, and the training is not the focus quite so much.
Mals tend to be more handler focused too....so tracking on their own with that line let out could be more of a challenge. But, I don't have or train a mal, this is just my own observation and opinion.

So Mals are more mechanical, better at following explicit directions where the GSD is better at instinctual things where they aren't necessarily following more than a single given command, but more thinking on their own...
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So Mals are more mechanical, better at following explicit directions where the GSD is better at instinctual things where they aren't necessarily following more than a single given command, but more thinking on their own...
I think that sounds about right, from what I've seen at least. Some say this shows that GSDs have more personality, and might take a second to think about it. I have said that this might be a reason why LE and military are using Mals more than GSDs, because they are quicker to follow a command with intensity. Same with the KNPV.
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Mals do excel in IPO. I agree with Jane that they are a lot of the reason for the shifts in judging and other trends in IPO and breeding. I don't believe they are better than GSD's, just different.
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