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The track as a reward?

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I have posted before on my girl's apparent lack of drive for toys, tugs, essentially not showing any drive for protection.

I have been concentrating on her high food drive for tracking. I am also learning to lay tracks. She is doing well and keeps her nose on the ground intensely. I have been told to play with her as a reward after the track. But she does not appear to acknowledge that as fun since she has no tug drive and the ball is borderline. In other words, it is anticlimactic.

I think she wishes there was more track and food? She is 1 year old. I am beginning to extend the track longer and longer. We are just beginners so the track is about 60- 70 feet.

What is a reward for a dog like this? TIA
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I don't use a toy on my track. He gets a pile of food at the end.

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Karlo tracks to track...articles and food on his track are mostly an annoyance to him. When I do put a toy at the end, he just wants to keep on tracking.
He would much rather 'man-track' than do the IPO style.
I have to let him know(food, verbal praise) that he is correct in this obedience based type tracking. It isn't natural to him to want to track for articles or a toy....he'd much rather have an exciting find.

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I was told not to "jackpot" the end or they will rush and be inaccurate on the track. Have you found this to be true?
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I was told not to "jackpot" the end or they will rush and be inaccurate on the track. Have you found this to be true?

No. My boy loves tracking. He often leaves food on the track. I don't see how using a toy at the end would be any less capable of creating "rushing" than food, for a dog with good toy drive. Same thing.

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I was told not to "jackpot" the end or they will rush and be inaccurate on the track. Have you found this to be true?
yes, if the food drive is high, yet you have to reward or at least acknowledge the end of the track. Quiet Praise may be enough, with a small jackpot to signal the end...pull the dog off and put up in crate for processing if the track was a learning session.
I would rather do some serpentines, or complicated tracks if the dog is rushing, I want the dog to think. Yet do it so the dog is set up to succeed. Track laying is difficult when you do get into the more intricate stuff.

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Thank you, I will do that tomorrow.
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I don't think its necessary to have any additional motivator at the end of the track if the dog enjoys tracking itself, especially if the dog doesn't particularly enjoy the reward that you're offering anyway. If you are pleased with her tracking behavior, why not just expand your criteria? Add length to the track, start picking up more food, age it longer, etc.

I have personally known some dogs who have learned to rush to the end of the track to get to a "jackpot" or higher value reward, and I chose not to do so myself for my current dog.

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I don't think its necessary to have any additional motivator at the end of the track if the dog enjoys tracking itself, especially if the dog doesn't particularly enjoy the reward that you're offering anyway. If you are pleased with her tracking behavior, why not just expand your criteria? Add length to the track, start picking up more food, age it longer, etc.

I have personally known some dogs who have learned to rush to the end of the track to get to a "jackpot" or higher value reward, and I chose not to do so myself for my current dog.
so how do you end your tracks?

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I don't think its necessary to have any additional motivator at the end of the track if the dog enjoys tracking itself, especially if the dog doesn't particularly enjoy the reward that you're offering anyway. If you are pleased with her tracking behavior, why not just expand your criteria? Add length to the track, start picking up more food, age it longer, etc.

I have personally known some dogs who have learned to rush to the end of the track to get to a "jackpot" or higher value reward, and I chose not to do so myself for my current dog.
so how do you end your tracks?
At an article. Sometimes pretend reporting out to judge and give a ball as we heel back to the car.
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