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Question on lines

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I was wondering if anyone knew of any Really good books or websites about different working DDR, Czech, and German working lines? I really want to know what the main differences are in the lines. Also, how important or how much of a difference is there between lines? To give you some background, I would be a first time/ novice and I would really like to do Schutzhund, is there a particular line I should start with (because I would just be starting out)? I am hoping to gain more information to help narrow down a search for breeders. Also if there are some threads that you know of that would be helpful, please let me know. I was trying to find some, but wasn't having much luck.

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First and foremost I would be looking for breeders that are actually out there working and titling their dogs AND have successfully picked puppies for others that have gone on to title. They should have a far better feel as to whether or not one of their dogs would be suitable for you and your goals. Then they should also be able to pick the right puppy for you.

I am partial to WGWL, but have included some older DDR working lines and would consider some Czech depending on the dog and the cross. You might find the pure Czech and DDR dogs more difficult to train especially for a first time handler (especially the DDR dogs bred now). For a novice I would put more trust in an experienced breeder than my own ability to find the right dog.

Have you visited any clubs? This can also help you not only find breeders, but also get a feel for the sport and the dogs that are out there trialing and titling. When you see dogs you like you can then maybe find out more about how they are bred.

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Ok.

Im sorry I guess I wasn't clear. I don't want to pick out my own dog/puppy, I want the breeder to decide that for me. I guess my question was should I be concerned with the lineage BEFORE deciding on the which breeders I should look at. To be honest, I don't know where to start in my search for information. I haven't visited any groups yet, I was going to go last spring, but I felt I didn't know enough about the breed or the sport yet to know what to even ask the members. I want to go this spring, and really have a better understanding of both so I don't sound completely ignorant lol.
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Ok.

Im sorry I guess I wasn't clear. I don't want to pick out my own dog/puppy, I want the breeder to decide that for me. I guess my question was should I be concerned with the lineage BEFORE deciding on the which breeders I should look at. To be honest, I don't know where to start in my search for information. I haven't visited any groups yet, I was going to go last spring, but I felt I didn't know enough about the breed or the sport yet to know what to even ask the members. I want to go this spring, and really have a better understanding of both so I don't sound completely ignorant lol.
At this point, most of the working lines have been blended together, so there is really not much difference between the lines. Find a breeder who is working their dogs and has a track record of success with their breedings.

I wrote a post on my website for beginners and their first visits to schutzhund club that you may find helpful: First Visit to Schutzhund Club

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

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What part of the state are you in? There are quite a few clubs actively training during the Winter months(and the outlook looks pretty mild for the rest of Dec.) I'd get with a couple clubs and ask if you can visit, see the different dogs working and chat with handlers.
If you do want to get into IPO, then getting with a club before you have a pup is always a good idea. In MI, there are clusters of areas with clubs and areas where there is absolutely nothing. Where I live, there is nothing....

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Thank you for the link!! That is really helpful! I live in Lansing (I attend MSU as a graduate student), however, may be moving to the Saginaw area next fall. So I shouldn't worry about the lines then?
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well written article Wolf. thanks for sharing the link

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IMO you have to worry about the lines to a certain extent, as I said above, because some of the "pure" DDR and Czech lines may not be what you want to work with as a novice. JMO There are a lot of breeders out there, but not all have real experience working dogs or training/titling in SchH.

Stay around the Lansing area. Saginaw is a waste land when it comes to clubs. There is a good helper/club in Charlotte. Check here:
United Schutzhund Clubs of America

Jane and I also train with a good non sanctioned club west of Ann Arbor that might be an option.

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Yes, Jane gave me that link last year, I will definitely call and check them out!! Thanks for the reminder!! I also contacted Chris Wild and she recommended that I check out numerous clubs because of the different cultures of all the groups
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Not last year, I meant last spring
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