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Thanks, I'll go for 40" plastic until I can get the truck and heavier grade crate.

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What age is Gitchi? Crate is important, a good vari-kennel is enough for most dogs. In your location a crate fan is a given & a water bucket that latches on the crate.

If you are starting in a week, have a good collar(buckle leather is ok until you get the fursaver/prong) and a thick leather 6' line.
Your TD will recommend what is necessary and where to buy from, hopefully. When you begin tracking, you don't need that long trial size line yet....but I've used mine from day one, and it is an ASAT material which is good for wet conditions, so the $ invested was never wasted. ASAT Lead 33' L-Elite K-9 I use a fursaver from day one as well when tracking, and you can hook double lines if necessary onto a fursaver. Muck boots or waterproof boots for tracking is a good idea, so make sure what you wear is waterproof. I also use a vest, so have access to pockets to load my articles, bait, corner marker washers when laying the track. For a young dog learning a flag, bait is all you need.

For most of my equipment, I've ordered from elite or hallmark.
Fursavers are a given, as well as a prong, tab, obedience line~I have a 3/8" 4' that is nice for ob/hook it over my shoulder easily. I prefer a larger gauge fursaver as my male has a big head and neck. He wears a 27"!
Don't forget the reward toys, synthetic tug, ball on string and tracking bait(articles/flag/washers to mark turns~much later for these!) & the dumbbells.
I pretty much use 1/2" ASAT lines exclusively.

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I use a harness (get them made by an Amish harness makere), and either a 7 foot leather lead or an 8 foot braided wider one for agittion work...I have AST in a couple of widths and lengths (also get custom made by Amish guy) and have agitation collars in my bag as well....dogs wear fursavers for everyday, and have various sized prongs...

I like 5/8 to 3/4 inch lines and have braided tabs in various lengths - from 7 inches to 3 foot - no handles, so for motion exercises and recalls, dog never gets its foot caught in a loop

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prefer agitation collars over harnesses-they just annoy me...
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Same here. No harnesses in tracking or protection training.


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Both, and protection, and tracking would be better to do with harness, if possible, with a handle:
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Away with it agitation collar:
Leerburg | Leather Agitation Collar with Handle
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And a metal whistle (instead of making yourself red in face when shouting):
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I don't use a harness for tracking, just a fursaver. Nobody that I train with ever, ever use a harness when tracking. And in IPO, whistles are not used either.
David Taggart, do you train in the sport?

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Hunter wolf and onyx,
What do you travel to trials with vehicle wise, van, truck SUV?

If you have a truck how hard are the welded crates to remove?
Do you use a ramp at all?
And what are some techniques to use when getting the dog out of the crate in a controlled manner?
My fear is looking disrespectful and not having control if the dog bolted past from the crate. I use a crate at home and Grim is so excited to exit, when he does he does some circles running around me then downstairs. Giving commands in the crate doesn't work he' he'll sit but as soon as the door is cracked he runs out (this when I come home from work etc)

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I have a boring mini van. Also have a 4 door GMC Sierra with a topper, but seldom use it anymore for training. No ramp for either vehicle. Yesterday I had a scare at training. Karlo jumped up into his wire crate and caught his back foot as he was going in. That ramped him up big time and he started growling/snarling at me when I attempted to free his foot. I had to let him do it on his own so he wouldn't twist it worse. Thank Dog, he wasn't injured. I used some vet wrap to seal the bottom of the crate where the tray goes in, so hopefully he won't do that again. It was very scary and I know he would have bitten me if I didn't back off. He was in a panic/pain filled mode.
As far as control when exiting the crate:
I make my dog stay in the crate while I put on whatever flat collar I'll be using...he isn't crazy over the top, but biddable. Then when I have the flat collar(fursaver or rolled leather) on, I tell him to get out/sit and then put on whatever equipment I need for the session. I've always blocked the crate when opening from early puppyhood, so my dog never had the opportunity to escape.

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Seems to work well with us without the harness in both phases. Handler learns to read the dog and the dog does not learn to "swim", especially in the B&H.


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