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transport & stalking

My female has a really intense stalking behavior when we're just out exploring. I want to get this picture in the side and particularly rear transports. I watched someone began teaching it by pressing the dog firmly into their leg from the outside with their left hand in the basic position more or less while moving forward slowly. The reasoning being, when the dog is pushing firmly into you they know where you are and are still attentive though not with eye contact. The person said they weren't really sure why the pressure "triggered" the stalking behaviour, but that it did. I watched this person then take a dog and get a stalking rear transport within about 20 minutes with really impressive reliability considering it was 20 minutes of training.

Any thoughts on this or tricks/techniques to achieve? I tried once last week with my female.. the stalking came out, but the urge to leave me and engage the helper was still too great. That and of course she had no idea what I was asking for at this stage.

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I have also seen this done, but not starting with the helper. They started it with a toy of some sort. I have seen the results with their older competition dogs so I know it works and eventually transfers from the toy to the helper. Try starting this with something other than the helper.

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I have also seen this done, but not starting with the helper. They started it with a toy of some sort. I have seen the results with their older competition dogs so I know it works and eventually transfers from the toy to the helper. Try starting this with something other than the helper.
I think we can get it with the helper if he gives a little less distraction. She *was* stalking, but was more than willing to continue stalking with or without me. Its like trying to slow a fast tracker.. I know there has gotta be a trick, and just holding her back isn't the answer. I saw it started with a helper. I believe when I was trying it my helper was facing, but I think if maybe he was faced away it would have tempted her less.

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The people I saw doing this, and I forgot this part until later, also had a second person on a line to keep the dog in position so it could not break.

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The people I saw doing this, and I forgot this part until later, also had a second person on a line to keep the dog in position so it could not break.
Now that we need to train the back transport.... are they just restraining the dog, or correcting them back into place? Should I first teach a type of heeling where contact is the "attention"? i.e... or should I keep the helper there so I don't confuse normal heeling? I was thinking of having the helper stand still, and when she forged or lost contact with my leg, we just stop until she gets back into position... so only proper position relative to me moves us closer to the helper

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They were doing this with a young dog so it was the initial training. They were actually helping to hold them into position.

You should not confuse this with normal heeling since you are not using the same command.

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