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post #1 of 54 (permalink) Old 04-16-2012, 09:40 AM Thread Starter
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Help quick, USCA question

I'm trying to contact the USCA office for confirmation but I don't think it's open yet so maybe someone here knows the answer...there's a RKNA club near me (Rottweiler Klub of North America) and they are hosting a trial in a few weeks. Johannes Grewe is the judge and he is USCA/SV. I'd like to do a BH and AD. The club says GSDs are welcome but I want to be sure the BH and AD will be recognized by USCA for future titles and breed survey. I am a member of USCA and have an AWDF scorebook, USCA individual registration, SV a-stamps, AKC full registration, and AKC certified 4-gen pedigree for this dog. Am I good?
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If the club is a UScA Club (even though a Rottweiler club)...there should be no problem.....at least I certaining don't think there should be.

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Is there a rule against trialing/showing under the same judge within certain time frame? Or do the conformation shows fall under different ruling? Grewe was the judge in KY, wasn't he?

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What do you mean Jane? Pan has no USCA/SV titles so he's never trialed under any judge. I pay very little attention to who is judging what since to date I have never once had the advantage of trialing or showing on a "home" field with my own training group. Since Johannes lives in Michigan he's used a lot in our region. Many clubs use the same judge year after year. As far as I know, Cedar Hill uses Johannes a lot since they have developed a rapport with him. Maybe the same is true with Dan Williams (though I suspect it's just cheaper to use a local judge than the club footing the bill to fly someone in when there's already an SV judge a few hours away).

Anyway, Lisa has answered my question, I can enter my dogs they just won't be in the USCA SchH 3 Club (no matter, since I don't really care about that and Nikon can't be anyway since I use multiple scorebooks with him).
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I can't keep up with the rules...but clubs can't use the same judge year after year-they can use Judge Smith and then Judge Jones and the following year go back to Judge Smith -not that that was related to your question
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I'm not in the club so it doesn't matter to me what judge they use, I'm interested in whether USCA will recognize a title earned outside of a USCA sanctioned trial.
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Johannes is NOT an SV judge - he is only UScA....IF - IF IF IF- you want an SV koer, you need an SV judge specifically for the BH/AD....His conformation ratings cannot be used for an SV approved Koer...

Personally - I really prefer SV judges for everything

ALTHOUGH!!! I did do a BH under Jim Elder and AD-Sch1 under SV judges for my old male and still got an SV koer.....but have always been told that the BH & AD should be under an SV judge

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I understand...just saying you can't use the same judge over and over
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Lee, I won't SV Koer because Nikon has OFAs (not accepted at the WDA breed surveys) and all the people/clubs I am now training with with Pan are USCA clubs/people. Pan already has an SV conformation rating (from a WDA show), SV dental notation, and SV a-stamps, but beyond that it's just not worth the hassle traveling all over to find SV/WDA trials and doubling up on all the paperwork when I have zero plans to ever show, trial, or breed a dog in Germany.
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I understand...just saying you can't use the same judge over and over
Me or the club? So you are saying a dog cannot trial under the same judge you previously show under?
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