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So i live in Macomb county, Michigan and i found a schutzhund trainer that was recommended by my vet because she took her two gsds there. So this lady has showed up maybe 4 or 5 times and we started training in like october. She only charges 5$ for basic obedience (Because thats as far as we got) so thats good but i was wondering if anyone lives in macomb county Michigan and has a good schutzhund traininer or personal protection trainer.
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Do you want to do SchH or personal protection... because those are two totally different ballgames

And how far do you expect to get and how fast? Realize a disobedient dog has no place on a protection field.

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Do you want to do SchH or personal protection... because those are two totally different ballgames

And how far do you expect to get and how fast? Realize a disobedient dog has no place on a protection field.



well he was in schutzhund for a month already but the trainer doesnt do her job and i want him to compete. He isnt a disobedient dog, Why did you write that?
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If you want to do Schutzhund you should join a club rather than pay a trainer.
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Probably because the core of SchH is obedience which might be part of why the trainer has only been doing basic obedience with you. Many of the SchH participants I know have extremely obedient dogs before they really even begin any sort "typical SchH" work. Mind you, this is only from an outsiders perspective as I don't compete, but I don't think it was meant to be offensive, just realistic.
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Agree with Lies. There are clubs in your general area, best to go and get an evaluation on you and your dog...contact/visit a few.


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Probably because the core of SchH is obedience which might be part of why the trainer has only been doing basic obedience with you. Many of the SchH participants I know have extremely obedient dogs before they really even begin any sort "typical SchH" work. Mind you, this is only from an outsiders perspective as I don't compete, but I don't think it was meant to be offensive, just realistic.


Oh i know, thankyou though. but i was saying we ONLY GOT TO obedience because she only showed up like 4 times. She told me in 3-4 weeks we should start basic tracking which should be this month and we havent trained anything completly yet.
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Was this with Pat C?
This time of year, many clubs are in a down-time...tracking is limited due to the weather and everyone is taking a breather after the trials.
Another thing, many times a trainer won't even deal with protection because they want to see the dogs temperament in obedience before they go that route. Also the handler's skill is taken into consideration before any bitework is suggested.

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well he was in schutzhund for a month already but the trainer doesnt do her job and i want him to compete. He isnt a disobedient dog, Why did you write that?
Not saying he is disobedient... just that a solid OB is the foundation to protection, so don't take it as a problem if OB is the focus initially

A month is a very short amount of time. A world class trainer could get the right dog to competition level, maybe, within a few years, FYI

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Was this Pat?
This time of year, many clubs are in a down-time...tracking is limited due to the weather and everyone is taking a breather after the trials.
This is a stupid question.... but given my sub-tropical environment... do you guys track in the winter? How does snow on the ground play into tracking?

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