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post #1 of 45 (permalink) Old 09-25-2011, 11:40 AM Thread Starter
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The new Bundessieger

Ginoginelli von Karthago - working-dog.eu

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I like him....nice bloodlines

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Uh...he's got Fero in him
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We can argue Fero but honestly, that dog is loaded with all the good stuff.
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Is it bad to have Fero in a dog's lineage?

Drop-dead gorgeous dog, btw!

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Is it bad to have Fero in a dog's lineage?

Drop-dead gorgeous dog, btw!

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Is it bad to have Fero in a dog's lineage?

Drop-dead gorgeous dog, btw!
The problem with Fero is that he continously produces some fo the best and successful dogs out there, which is why he is used so much but that narrows the diversity and catapults you in a genetic bottleneck. To find dogs without Fero is not that easy, you really have to look for them.

While I do know about the fero problem, as a handler I have no problem with handling a dog that has Fero, however it also supports breeding with Fero so it's kind of like a personal decision. All three of my dogs have Fero.
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The problem with Fero is that he continously produces some fo the best and successful dogs out there, which is why he is used so much but that narrows the diversity and catapults you in a genetic bottleneck. To find dogs without Fero is not that easy, you really have to look for them.

While I do know about the fero problem, as a handler I have no problem with handling a dog that has Fero, however it also supports breeding with Fero so it's kind of like a personal decision. All three of my dogs have Fero.
Ah, I see. Thanks!

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Gino is an AWESOME dog. He has Jenny's dog Dreschler (Gabor's Drigon's littermate) in his pedigree .
And cool thing is that Kuba, with Tobias, is from Jenny and Jogi's breeding program.

Both Jenny and Jogi work jobs full time, train full time (late at night and weekends). Very focused.

Great that Jogi won the other year and now Jenny has :-).


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Very nice looking dog and very nice work. For me he has too much of the T litter Narbarschaft(sp), in terms of a breeding choice. Having said that he absolutely comes through whom I think is the best Troll son in Tim Abhfur. This dog produced fabulous working temperament and was an asset in hips in a pedigree. ...Nice dog!!
Now I do think this dog would be fabulous for breeding to a strong Czech female......I'm drooling thinking about that.lol

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