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Never mind fancy heeling...

how do you get a dog to do protection like this??

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Very, very nice dog......he is my idea of a solid dog that you can fun in the sports with. BTW...the other video(s) of the young dog Nexx & the female dog...are very nice also.....several solid, beautiful dogs period....definitely the kind of dogs I like.

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It's all good, as long as you get an "out".
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The "out" problem is training, and it can happen to the best.
I'll take a training problem over a temperament issue any day. I like having a solid dog that is capable of doing those things with....otherwise, I wouldn't bother.
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The "out" problem is training, and it can happen to the best.
I'll take a training problem over a temperament issue any day.
IMO, most out issues are because of temperament problems.
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IMO, most out issues are because of temperament problems.
Or foundation training....
He had no problem outing.

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how do you get a dog to do protection like this??
You start with a good dog. Train hard and smart. And add a liberal dollop of compulsion.

What specifically do you like about this dog? Do you like the dog or the training?
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I'd agree to foundation training mostly......but then again, you have to "know" what is actually training vs temperament.
I'd still prefer to have a issue with an out because of training...than a dog that won't engage...because of temperament.
Good dogs in the video(s)....can't take anything away from that.

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No out problem there, but electric is on. He seems to have good aggression and power, but a bit loaded up perhaps?

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Or foundation training....
He had no problem outing.
I saw him get DQ'ed at the FCI '09 because he failed to out. But I have no great insight into Hokey. I have only seen the dog trial twice and practice/ train once. He looks like a pretty good dog to me.

But like I said IMO, most out issues are due to temperament problems. Sometimes people go down Stupid Street, when they have a young dog with out problems and it looks like a training issue. But they went down a bad road because the dog had a problem in the first place.

BTW every dog I have ever met had a problem of some type. No dog is perfect.

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