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Do it yourself schutzhund...

I took the 9 month old puppy out today for my son to work. It has been years since I attempted to do this stuff with a dog. He had one other session as a younger pup on just the tug.

The pup barked aggressively and he bit well on the puppy sleeve. Okay, so I think he can do this a bit.

What next? He is 9 months old. I remember Cliff and others talking about the approach of not working a youngster too much until they have maturity for balanced work. Now that I see he is gung ho, do I wait before beginning what has been in the past a rather disappointing search for helper work?

What is to be gained at this age? or lost?
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I have no advice Samba but would be interested in what other's have to say.

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Think the next step will be to find a good club so you make sure to continue on the right path with this. I know other club members will also be a huge help to also work on the other 2/3 of the sport, the obedience and tracking.




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Now that I see he is gung ho, do I wait before beginning what has been in the past a rather disappointing search for helper work?

Why wait to look? Just don't take the dog with you until you think you have found the right place.


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Well, I guess I was just wondering if 9 months old was a good time to get him whacked off the puppy sleeve or to have a refrigerator stand and make a sleeve presentation!!!

I think, like some kind of parent, I want to keep him home from school one more year!! The search is not so much fun!

I need to find a training helper who consistently trains dogs to scores in the 90s. Perhaps it will happen.
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No you don't. I can only recall a very short period of time where I have worked with an "experienced helper" and less time where I got along with them or felt my dog was getting the best training. That's the truth.


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I believe you, really. The youngster needs to understand his power and clear victory. I think that has been one of the hardest scenarios to find.

I guess I want a situation where I don't have to work so hard! But that really isn't a good idea based on previous discussions on the board regarding the handlers involvement in the protection training.
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And I am not sure a 9 month old needs to see much anyhow. Find someone you can work with and meanwhile your boy can grow up a bit more.

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I was thinking he was still young enough to stay home! lol

I've been watching people work puppies on tug work, chase the tug, learn they are competing with helper for tug, grip work on the tug. Ugh! I have not done much of this. Hope I am not behind on this. Can I say watching Ivan B. makes me tired??

I am feeling lazy but the weather is atrocious (ok to me anyway) and there is no indoor space nearby. Is there a great deal gained in puppy foundation work that can't be made up in the young dog?
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I am feeling lazy but the weather is atrocious (ok to me anyway) and there is no indoor space nearby. Is there a great deal gained in puppy foundation work that can't be made up in the young dog?
I've found that there's a TON of foundation work that can be done with puppies that is a huge help when you later begin the 'real' training. If you find a great club who works with puppies and can help you provide the foundation skills (for both pup and handler) I know I've seen amazing results from the adult dogs.




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