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elisabeth_00117 01-31-2010 10:13 PM

GSD's, Mals, and Rotties?
 
In another forum I belong too there was a question asked that I would like to ask here.

"In SchH, why do you think more GSD's and Mal's participate and score higher than Rotties or any other breeds?"

What are your opinions on this?

What about each breed makes one "better suited" for SchH over the other? Or would you say that all and any breed can make it as a top SchH dog?

ch3ckpo1nt 01-31-2010 10:41 PM

Re: GSD's, Mals, and Rotties?
 
as of today, I've decided to learn about ScH, so currently, I know nothing.

But that question is easy!

GSD are better looking
They are smarter
Probably faster
And just plain badass!

these are purely my own opinions and should not be taken seriously.

Vandal 01-31-2010 10:42 PM

Re: GSD's, Mals, and Rotties?
 
SchH was intended as a test for the GSD and overall, for most of Schutzhund's existence, they have out performed the other breeds. That is because SchH was designed to test the attributes that a GSD is supposed to have. However, a decade or so back, people started to lose their minds and started wanting the obedience to look a bit more Barnum and Bailey-like where flash and speed became the criteria and prey work was all that mattered in SchH. That is when the Malinois started to excel and is also when the people who lacked the talent to train a real GSD started to switch breeds. At some point, things will perhaps shift back to the way it used to be and while Mals will still continue to do well, GSDs will start to be recognized, once again, for the positive traits they possess. Traits that Mals just do not have and never will have.
As for Rotts, they are a carting breed and not meant for SchH. Yes, I have seen a few, ( very few ) , good ones but mostly they lack the balance necessary to do well in SchH.

KJenkins 02-01-2010 08:56 AM

Re: GSD's, Mals, and Rotties?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted By: Vandal
As for Rotts, they are a carting breed and not meant for SchH. Yes, I have seen a few, ( very few ) , good ones but mostly they lack the balance necessary to do well in SchH.
Could you be anymore condescending or sanctimonious?

ch3ckpo1nt 02-01-2010 09:10 AM

Re: GSD's, Mals, and Rotties?
 
^ You calm it Mr.

holland 02-01-2010 09:35 AM

Re: GSD's, Mals, and Rotties?
 
Just remember you are on the schutzhund form you know...lol

Vandal 02-01-2010 11:53 AM

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Quote:

Quote:Could you be anymore condescending or sanctimonious?
Just stating it as I see it. I have not seen very many Rotts do well in SchH. Mals are able to compete with GSDs but Rotts rarely have. If the facts hurt your feelings, I'm sorry about that. It is what I said though, SchH was designed for GSDs.

SunCzarina 02-01-2010 12:10 PM

Re: GSD's, Mals, and Rotties?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted By: Eli_Dog
Quote:

Originally Posted By: Vandal
As for Rotts, they are a carting breed and not meant for SchH. Yes, I have seen a few, ( very few ) , good ones but mostly they lack the balance necessary to do well in SchH.
Could you be anymore condescending or sanctimonious?
I don't see it as either. Rotties are what they are - big burly dogs built to haul a meat cart around.

One of Morgan's BBFs for the last 6 years has been the rott across the street. Any day of the week she can out run him, out OB him and certainly outsmart him. Never mind he's laying on the porch panting when she's just getting warmed up. Yeah he could over power her easily but he'd have to catch her first. Just my opinion.

gagsd 02-01-2010 12:13 PM

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I have friends that have Rotties and it seems, for better or worse, people are breeding Rotts specifically to do schutzhund now. The two they have possess "prey/ball drive" like a Mal (almost!).

holland 02-01-2010 12:36 PM

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Sometimes its nice when people see things a little differently


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