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Making Retrieves

Another training discussion. How do you make retrieves? What are the advantages and disadvantages to your method? Do you use special equipment (table, box, etc.)?


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Re: Making Retrieves

OK. A lot of views and no replies. Perhaps the topic is too broad, there are quite a few aspects to the retrieve. So let me narrow it down. How do you teach the dog to hold the dumbell calmly and firmly? At what point do you do this; is it the first thing you train or do you worry about it after the dog is retrieving the dumbell?


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Hi Art.. there was a thread a while ago on "forced retrieve" it was a good decision. Maybe I'll try to find that.

I teach the "hold" separate with a dowel with a string attached keeping pressure so that the dog must hold firmly or he'll receive a slight correction if he drops it or I can pull it out of his mouth. I've used all motivational training with my retrieves in the beginning of teaching the different parts of the retrieve. This exercise broken down has multiple parts.

Hold
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Retrieve
Presentation (front)
Speed

I'm going to look for that other thread/discussion.

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We use the pond...:-)


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Originally Posted By: Lynn_PHi Art.. there was a thread a while ago on "forced retrieve" it was a good decision. Maybe I'll try to find that.

I teach the "hold" separate with a dowel with a string attached keeping pressure so that the dog must hold firmly or he'll receive a slight correction if he drops it or I can pull it out of his mouth. I've used all motivational training with my retrieves in the beginning of teaching the different parts of the retrieve. This exercise broken down has multiple parts.

Hold
Pick Up
Retrieve
Presentation (front)
Speed

I'm going to look for that other thread/discussion.
I teach this in the same way, right now we are still working on presentation (getting that nice front sit, Stark tends to sit to the side a bit) and speed (he likes to take his time... haha).

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Originally Posted By: Lynn_PHi Art.. there was a thread a while ago on "forced retrieve" it was a good decision. Maybe I'll try to find that.

I teach the "hold" separate with a dowel with a string attached keeping pressure so that the dog must hold firmly or he'll receive a slight correction if he drops it or I can pull it out of his mouth. I've used all motivational training with my retrieves in the beginning of teaching the different parts of the retrieve. This exercise broken down has multiple parts.

Hold
Pick Up
Retrieve
Presentation (front)
Speed

I'm going to look for that other thread/discussion.
I teach this in the same way, right now we are still working on presentation (getting that nice front sit, Stark tends to sit to the side a bit) and speed (he likes to take his time... haha).
How are his fronts without the dumbell? Flash is just my first dog and all but I'm a firm believer in "don't even think about fronts with a dumbell unless the dog is 110% perfect without the dumbell".

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Re: Making Retrieves

He does great without the dumbell!

Nice and straight, close to me (nose almost touching my stomach), fast and accurate.. with the dumbell, he sits off to the side and a bit further back from where I want him. I am constantly straightening him up before I command him to auss the dumbell. Not sure if he is getting side tracked with the dumbell or what, he doesn't do this with when we use his ball or tug rope either, so not sure what's going on.

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My dogs retrieves were taught motivationally..

First building drive for the dumbbell, to where my dogs were racing out and snatching the dumbbell up, then teaching the hold separately (I used their dumbbell for this), once they understood what the hold was, I gradually pieced it all together..

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.........Nice and straight, close to me (nose almost touching my stomach), fast and accurate.. with the dumbell, he sits off to the side and a bit further back from where I want him. I am constantly straightening him up before I command him to auss the dumbell.
Did you work the hold in the front position? How do you straighten him before asking him to out?

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Re: Making Retrieves

What do you mean work the hold in the front position? Like use this as a sepearte training manuver? Just have him hold the dumbell in the front until he get's it?

I'm new so I have been basically learning as I go, reading, researching and watching videos. My trainer and I have been doing the front's, heels, retrieves with a ball or tug, not the dumbell, I think maybe because it is heavier than the others?

I will work on just the hold in the front position.

When I straighten him up, I usually lure him in with my hands (or a treat). I can get him to straighten up with just bringing my hands towards myself (does this make sense?).

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