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Evaluating pup for Schutzhund

I have been doing a lot of research about Schutzhund, and I am really beginning to take interest in it. My pup does NOT come from a line of working dogs, mainly American show, with some German influences here and there (my breeder has supplied the law enforcement departments with dogs in the past, and I was able to meet a 6 month old prospect they had...I have no idea if that means anything in regards to this). However, I feel like there's no harm in getting her evaluated. So my questions are, does anyone know how I can find local training clubs, and what are the cost estimates for getting involved in something like this? Thanks a lot.

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The cost for an evaluation isn't much - a lot of clubs will evaluate a dog for free or it may be the cost of one session.

I think John Soares is up your way - he is very good.
http://www.johnsoaresk9training.com/

And here is a list of WDA and USA clubs across the country.
http://www.gsdca-wda.org/clubs.htm
http://germanshepherddog.com/clubs/index.htm

Schutzhund is not cheap Training with a club will be less than with a private trainer but someone new to the sport might need more help. Costs vary greatly by club. At the minumum you will generally pay club dues annually and then whether it's required or not, it's polite to give the helper a "tip" when he works your dog.

Private trainer costs can vary a lot. I did some private lessons when I was living in GA, and it was $65 for 3 phases for 2 dogs. Then I got back to NJ and it was MUCH more expensive.

You will need to purchase a few things - a heavy leash and/or long line, an agitation collar or harness, and a ball on a string to get started. But if you don't want to spend the money on that before you know if your dog is suitable, the club can probably lend you a harness or collar for your evaluation.

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Ding ding ding! If we were strict budgeters schh would absolutely be a line item. I think cost is something people don't think about when they think schh is something they want to do.

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Yeah it's expensive! For me the worst part is gas. Our club dues are very reasonable. Also since I am new I prefer to stick with our TD right now, so I'm not doing a ton of outside traveling or enrolling in seminars just yet (at least not ones with my dog). I could be paying a really good helper that several members here recommended but for my first dog I'd prefer to stick with one club/trainer and one method. Also it cost quite a bit just for me to get all the stuff - leash, harness, prong, long line, dozens of balls since they always rip off the string, tracking articles and flags, good boots....but once you have it all then it would be easier later on if you have different dogs and plenty of people have offered to lend me various things. Some people I know have used the same stuff for ten years. It's worth it to me though because I feel that by training in three phases and also raising my dog a certain way, I'm training the total dog. All the other competitive dog sports I've tried seem to leave me wanting more, like it's a fun activity but not really challenging me or my dog.
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The club I belong to should raise its dues. I know times are tough, but we need the extra $ to get it where it could be-affiliating with other organizations, etc. The owner of the site we train on has put alot of $ into upgrading the field and purchasing equipment out of pocket. I hope the next time dues are due, we vote for an increase. I would also like to pay the TD and helper for gas at least. My pup hasn't really needed much yet as far as the helper work, and our attendance has been sporadic, but I feel to grow as a new club, we will benefit from more $ flowing in.
On the subject of an evaluation~If you visit clubs and pay to work your dog at said clubs, you will know within a visit or two if your dog has the temperament for it.

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Originally Posted By: Stephanie17sI have been doing a lot of research about Schutzhund, and I am really beginning to take interest in it. My pup does NOT come from a line of working dogs, mainly American show, with some German influences here and there (my breeder has supplied the law enforcement departments with dogs in the past, and I was able to meet a 6 month old prospect they had...I have no idea if that means anything in regards to this). However, I feel like there's no harm in getting her evaluated. So my questions are, does anyone know how I can find local training clubs, and what are the cost estimates for getting involved in something like this? Thanks a lot.
supplied law enforcement with american showlines?? i doubt it

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Originally Posted By: onyx'girlThe club I belong to should raise its dues. I know times are tough, but we need the extra $ to get it where it could be-affiliating with other organizations, etc. The owner of the site we train on has put alot of $ into upgrading the field and purchasing equipment out of pocket. I hope the next time dues are due, we vote for an increase. I would also like to pay the TD and helper for gas at least. My pup hasn't really needed much yet as far as the helper work, and our attendance has been sporadic, but I feel to grow as a new club, we will benefit from more $ flowing in.
On the subject of an evaluation~If you visit clubs and pay to work your dog at said clubs, you will know within a visit or two if your dog has the temperament for it.
Also I think higher dues = more committed people. I bet there will be an increase. I think the men have some ideas cooking for a more official field, something about "building" blinds, etc...
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[quote]Originally Posted By: phgsdThe cost for an evaluation isn't much - a lot of clubs will evaluate a dog for free or it may be the cost of one session.

I think John Soares is up your way - he is very good.
http://www.johnsoaresk9training.com/

And here is a list of WDA and USA clubs across the country.
http://www.gsdca-wda.org/clubs.htm
http://germanshepherddog.com/clubs/index.htm

Schutzhund is not cheap Training with a club will be less than with a private trainer but someone new to the sport might need more help. Costs vary greatly by club. At the minumum you will generally pay club dues annually and then whether it's required or not, it's polite to give the helper a "tip" when he works your dog.

Private trainer costs can vary a lot. I did some private lessons when I was living in GA, and it was $65 for 3 phases for 2 dogs. Then I got back to NJ and it was MUCH more expensive.

You will need to purchase a few things - a heavy leash and/or long line, an agitation collar or harness, and a ball on a string to get started. But if you don't want to spend the money on that before you know if your dog is suitable, the club can probably lend you a harness or collar for your evaluation.

Thank for for the information and the links. I will be looking into it.



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I have been doing a lot of research about Schutzhund, and I am really beginning to take interest in it. My pup does NOT come from a line of working dogs, mainly American show, with some German influences here and there (my breeder has supplied the law enforcement departments with dogs in the past, and I was able to meet a 6 month old prospect they had...I have no idea if that means anything in regards to this). However, I feel like there's no harm in getting her evaluated. So my questions are, does anyone know how I can find local training clubs, and what are the cost estimates for getting involved in something like this? Thanks a lot.
supplied law enforcement with american showlines?? i doubt it
That's what I was told. I have no way of knowing if that's true or not, so I chose to believe them.

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There ARE American showlines that have supplied dogs for Law enforcement steve....may not be common, but it has happened

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Exception rather than the rule - I know of domestic dogs (usually BYB type, not confirmation show type) that titled in Sch as well....and a coated BYB dog who is a patrol dog in a small town - chances of him ever being sent for a live bite are about as good as me winning the powerball! But the community likes having a K9 that kids can pet!

K9's and K9 departments vary to extremes in what they want in a dog....some want a dog good for PR and very safe and non aggressive/reactive who will be more of a visual deterrant....all others care about is a dog "who will bark, chase and bite" ...while still others want a top quality, highly trained dual purpose dog....

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