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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-25-2019, 08:23 AM Thread Starter
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Air Snapping - Should I Correct or Ignore it



Matilda is roughly 12 weeks old, she's a craigslist dog and I was told she's GSD, not sure of the content but I know she is at least a mix of GSD and godknowswhat.

She's great! Super intelligent - easily the smartest dog I've ever had, absolutely loathes pottying in her crate or indoors, doesn't harass my cats, extremely receptive to correction and 'no', eager to please and not easily influenced by distractions when out in public - but there is one thing I'm not sure if I need to correct or ignore and this only started popping up after a week of having her; I've had her since she was 10 weeks [s]even though I have reason to believe she may have been younger, as well as the vet putting her at 2 months old.[/s]

Air Snapping.

I never. In my life.. have had a dog who air snaps.. and once she found out air snapping makes a fun noise, she does it so frequently but only at times of excitement; going to the kitchen to get food, praise, etc. She doesn't display any sort of other dominant behavior, she's easily corrected so it doesn't necessarily concern me or raise any red flags right now but I also have never owned this breed and after reading up on silly little things this breed is known to do - she does all of them - I'll just take the lead from more seasoned shepherd owners on this one. I've owned primarily bully breeds up to this point in my life and I'm of the mindset an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and I just want to make sure I'm not jumping the gun here.
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Is she just snapping at air or is she snapping at flying bugs - flies???

My female chases/snaps at flies. She is insane about it, because of that we are looking into herding activities for her. Something that will challenge her mentally and use that chasing/herding tendencies to something more productive. It does not overwhelm her and she will still take corrections from us so I am not overly worried about it. She is a little thicker of a gal so the extra walking will not kill her

Your pup just may need more mental stimulation, GSD's get bored because they are so intelligent
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Air snapping is a defensive behavior, and before we ever correct a defense mechanism we need to figure out a root cause and correct or counter condition that. Example: dogs that growl when you touch certain spots, we don't correct the growl we counter condition so the dog loses negative association with touching that spot.
Basically you don't want to make your dog feel that it has no option but to bite.
That said, Shadow does this thing when she is excited that is basically a silent bark. She will huff and open and close her mouth rapidly, could easily be misconstrued as a snap but it isn't if you watch her body language. I corrected for nuisance barking and now she makes no noise but still moves her mouth.
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My soon to be 6 yo was really "good" at air snaps --- go to "work" and in certain instances, yup! Play outside, yup. It did not seem to be defensive - just enthusiasm. It diminished over time.



BTW one cute black pup there. Glad you found one another. 8 to 12 weeks is a good time to get a pup and I am glad that she's being good.
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It sounds more like an excited playful air snap. More then a behavioral airsnap. If she is constantly doing it it may be an obsessive thing. You will want to give her some instructions during those times of excitement and important she gets lots of mental stimulation that LRP mentioned .Max will occasionally air snap when playing fetch. He will get super excited and his playful air snap it is just a hurry up throw the ball I can’t wait to catch it that kind of thing out of excitement and playful.
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My dog would air snap virtually everytime I had her back up all through her puppyhood. As she's gotten older she's stopped mostly. I always took it to be playful excitement, but I can see where it's a little backtalk-y too (I know, new word of my own making...don't see it catching on any time soon LOL), so perhaps a little defensive. Either way it diminished with maturity on it's own, and was never threatening or aggressive in any way. Like barks and growls and nose pokes, it's communication, so I would never correct it!
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I never. In my life.. have had a dog who air snaps.. and once she found out air snapping makes a fun noise, she does it so frequently but only at times of excitement; going to the kitchen to get food, praise, etc. She doesn't display any sort of other dominant behavior, she's easily corrected so it doesn't necessarily concern me or raise any red flags right now but I also have never owned this breed and after reading up on silly little things this breed is known to do - she does all of them - I'll just take the lead from more seasoned shepherd owners on this one.
Congratulations on getting such a great dog.

The type of air snapping that you describe is not a behavioral problem. It is a medical problem. It does not need to be "corrected." It needs to be treated.

There's three main possibilities for this that the vets know of.

1. Obssessive-compulsive disorder.

2. Seizures (known as fly catching seizures).

3. Gastrointestinal disorders.

Useful info at:

http://reader.elsevier.com/reader/sd...C675638http://

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...vj_12_1279.pdf

We had a GSD that had fly snapping seizures that became so bad he couldn't sleep. The vet put him on phenobarbital and the fly snapping seizures stopped in two hours. After a week, we were able to taper him off the phenobarbital when we switched him to a lamb and rice kibble diet. That was the only sign of GI trouble he had. Apparently it had something to do with his gut biome and the lamb and rice kibble corrected his gut biome.
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Aaaaaaand - there's a difference between snapping and excited teeth clacking.

Some dogs "chatter"/clack their teeth when they're really excited. It's not defensive, aggressive, or anything along those lines.

If you can get a video and share it, you'll probably receive some more opinions.
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My SIL’s Golden Retriever “air snaps” at us when she wants something. I put it in quotation marks because she’s hilarious. We tried to teach her to speak, but all she ever did was air snap with gentle “woofs” here and there. So that’s just what she does now.

She does it during agility when she’s excited, when we’re eating because she wants some, or when we’re playing because she’s having a blast. My GSD just full on barks instead... but the movement and motion is the exact same, lol.
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By your discription it sounds like excitement vs anything problematic. I have one that is 9 years old and has air snapped since she was a pup. If I pick up a ball, stick, or act as though I'm initiating play she will air snap repeatedly. She will hold whatever position I place her in without fail, but the mouth doesn't stop.
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