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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 02-03-2018, 09:49 AM Thread Starter
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Bone issues

Hey guys I am just reaching out for some opinions and advice with the bone portion of my pups raw food diet. I am having a difficult time getting them to spend the time to chew the bones. I have been using chicken backs and I was quartering them and my dogs will just swallow them whole. The dogs will then for the rest of the night be coughing either due to something stuck or throat irratation. I have tried the whole back and the same issues are happening. I am worried this will cause issue if I continue to feed them bones. I have purchased seaweed calcium supplements to help make sure they will get what they need just curious what you guys think.
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 02-03-2018, 11:29 AM
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You could grind the bone and muscle meat. Maybe try chicken breast on the bone, see if that slows them down. That's the only thing I can think of I have a chewer.
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They do swallow them whole. They crunch them up until the bone is crushed enough so they can swallow them. I've never had one tear a poultry bone apart. Lamb necks they chew on while they break off pieces.

Are you sure they are coughing from the bone? I've never had one do that.

Before you just add supplements, have you actually crunched the numbers to find out what nutrients they are missing? And what else you are adding with seaweed supplements?
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I have the ounces of everything she needs and have prepackaged her food so I know each meal is meeting her requirements. The only thing I'm having an issue with was with bone. The cough has only happened twice and both times were shortly after her meal which consisted of the chicken back. It is an assumption that it is related to the bone. The breeder required the use of a digestive enzyme and a chewable joint and hip supplement. I just did some research and found the seaweed calcium supplement and here I am looking for some advice.
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The breeder required..... is this a puppy?

And I am trying to help you.

You have ounces of everything she needs? I did too, until I did the actual spreadsheet based on NRC requirements. And research into how much bone was actually in what I was feeding. For instance, a neck is 50% bone. Which means if you feed 10 oz, then you only need 2 oz of neck per the 80/10/10 but by the spreadsheet based on actual values of the piece thru testing, I needed 3 oz. Less than 10% of organ meat because the liver took the vitamin A way over the requirement which, since that is a fat soluble vitamin, could be bad. I found that the diet was completely void of iodine, low in potassium, manganese, selenium, choline, vitamin D and zinc.

If you are comfortable with what you are doing then please disregard all I've said. I won't be offended.

As Apex1 said, you can grind the bone if you are concerned with her harming herself. If I were going to add a supplement for calcium, it would not be from vegetation. It would be from bone meal which would be the complete bone with all the minerals and vitamins with it.




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I've used the spreadsheet to get my daily requirements, but never researched the bone percentages. Thanks for the help!
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Look up 2 books. Dr. Becker Real Food and Monica Segel's K9 Kitchen.

Both have recipes, lots of info on supplements including bone meal.

I have a Tasin grinder. It's lasted years and has ground up a ton of poultry necks. Less than $200 and worth every penny. Bought from here -
Tasin TS-108 Electric Meat Grinder, #12, Stainless Steel, Raw Pet Food Making




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I will do that. Thanks again I believe feeding them a raw diet is best. I just don't want to make them worse due to my lack of knowledge so I'm over critical of any of their reactions as wrongdoings on my part.
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Luke, you are cutting up the chicken backs? Reason? How old are the dogs with the issues? Just trying to understand.
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The dog in question is 4. I had been cutting them because she will pull the whole back out of her bowl and leave it. If I made them more manageable she would eat them, but not chew them as I had hoped. She had a hiccup/cough the rest of the night like she was trying to clear her throat.
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