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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 04-24-2017, 12:07 AM Thread Starter
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Beginners guide to raw?

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I have fed raw for 18 years, weaned 9 litters to raw and raised countless puppies on raw. Obviously I am all for it, BUT, it takes effort to do it correctly. It isn't rocket science, but is much harder than scooping kibble out of a bag. Good variety of protein sources especially from red meat, good variety of raw meaty bones (though most puppies can't handle the bones from animals like sheep, pigs or cattle until older). I tend to use chicken and turkey as my base and then feed the other meats as just muscle meat until the pups can handle the harder/denser bones. Then organ meats (I use mostly beef, but also some from mutton), some tripe, maybe whole eggs here and there and fish (some fish need to be frozen in very cold temps to be safe to feed). I use canned sardines, but have also been able to get whole flash frozen sardines. Then there are other red meat sources like goat, bison, emu, rabbit (very lean), venison.

Most people feed 80% muscle meat, 10% bone (I have had better success with a higher level of bone) and 10% organ meat with 5% of that in the form of liver. The muscle meat should really be attached to bone to form raw meaty bones. Then I will add in salmon oil as they grow and the occasional (1 or 2 times per week) vit E. Some also use some other supplements that they can mention.

Anyhow, it is harder than just throwing some leg quarters and hamburger together with an occasional egg (I know someone who did this and caused all sorts of health issues in his growing pup).

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Dear lhczth,

I am new to the forum and I have been feeding raw for about 3 years now (still learning). Am I correct saying that adults can be fed sheep, pig, and cattle meaty bones? I am trying to picture what size would be appropriete. Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Beef is one of the harder ones since the bone tends to be very dense and often hard. Most of the beef I feed is just heart, other muscle meat and organ with the occasional knuckle bone or oxtail (though they are usually crazy expensive). Mutton/Lamb, I feed all, but the leg bones. They can handle necks, ribs, shoulders, breast bone. With pork, I tend to stick to the necks since they are least expensive.

Size wise depends on the dog. The lamb/mutton I get is cut in smaller pieces, but my dogs were all weaned to raw so they know how to chew. The pork neck is split and then I cut it into 3rds usually. These are usually a large chunk of bone with meat. Since the pork neck is so big and heavy in bone, I feed a smaller meal the next time with little to no bone.
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Thanks this is very helpful!
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I plan to make my own raw food for our 4 month old pup. Basically from chicken breast, some beef, tripe, chicken liver and maybe chicken feet and/or head+neck for calcium.

I was wondering what should be the ratio of all these per kg of this mix?

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I plan to make my own raw food for our 4 month old pup. Basically from chicken breast, some beef, tripe, chicken liver and maybe chicken feet and/or head+neck for calcium.

I was wondering what should be the ratio of all these per kg of this mix?

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I'd be interested too. At the moment my 14wk old Pup is on bigcountryraw.ca food as that is what the breeder fed her parents and she was weaned on so I've continued with that at the moment.

It's obviously not the cheapest route to go so my goal is to talk to a local butcher and see what I can do to try and DIY my own RAW food and save some money.

My adult black labrador is currently on Fromm and my goal is to have them both on DIY raw and save me money every month ! That's the goal obviously but not sure if it's a reality.

I'm reading up here, there and everywhere but yet to find a laymans term website which says get this from the butchers, put this kg of chicken (or other protein) in, this amount of bone, this amount of veg, throw it in a blender and bobs your uncle, fanny's your aunt
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I feed raw and my dogs have never had kibble, they have been raw fed since they were born. I use chicken thighs for the bone and rarely feed chicken breasts. The thigh has a good ratio of bone, fat and meat. I also add organ meat, liver, tripe and ground beef. I've been feeding raw exclusively for almost 12 years now.

Ihczth has a good ratio posted above and a very good link to check out.

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, throw it in a blender and bobs your uncle, fanny's your aunt
Amazing, do you know uncle Bob and aunt fanny. I haven't seen them in about 6 months, but interesting to hear them mentioned on this forum.
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Quick one for you guys. I spoke with my breeder today. Pup is 8 weeks old on december 23rd. I was all set for raw feeding from the start but the breeder suggested i leave the raw until the pup is 6 months old and just keep him on kibble until then. He is concerned about the growth rate. So now im thinking on keeping him on the kibble for a while and gradually introduce him to raw. For example at 11 weeks i will give a chicken wing with kibble. What do you all think. Anything wrong with going this method?
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