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Hi, I'm writing this to get other's opinion as to what they might do or think in my situation. I have 2 GS, Sam is 17 months, Milo is 15 months. Both purchased from the same breeder, Sam is a import, Milo is from the breeders. I feel as if I have just had too many health problems in the past year considering these dogs supposedly come from very solid, healthy lines. Let me preface I have had GS my whole life, and these are my 5 & 6th dogs. Here goes..to start both have soft ears. I did keep an eye on them as pups and made sure no ear chewing went on, sure there were a few times during play but it was always stopped, and people were not allowed to pet or scrub their ears. Ears were taped on both by 5-5 1/2 months which was suggested by the breeder. It didn't do much. I'm not sure how i feel about the taping thing. Milo is in week 6 of recovery from surgery for OCD in one knee. I have never seen Milo run at full speed every since he was a pup and gradually over time developed a limp which was then looked at by a specialist. There was never any acute injury that I'm aware of that could of caused this. His knee is also quite larger then the other from a bony standpoint and there was some necrotic bone found when surgery was performed. Needless to say treatment was not cheap.
Sam is on the large size, 30" tall and very long. Sam has recently become sick and no one can figure out whats going on.
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What diet were you feeding them as pups/ and now? Did you give them chewbones to work their face/head muscles? I've read this helps make the ears stronger to stand, though my pup had her ears up by 10 weeks. Maybe give more details on what Sam is experiencing as far as illness.

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thanks for the reply. I accidetally posted before explaining Sam's issue. Sam has recently lost about 12 lbs in the past 2 weeks. I've had numerous X-rays, a specialist was bought in for ultrasound, blood tests, urine tests, hormone tests, fecal tests, etc. $2500 later and he was released with no answers. No one can figure out what's going on with him. Mind you these are just the major incidences. I spent a lot of time researching breeders and decided to make the extra investment in $$ thinking that I would be gettingh well bred dogs with solid healthy bloodlines. I understand visits to the vet are all a part of owning a dog but I feel we have been through way too much stuff in their first year. My question is would you, if in my situation, contact the breeder? And would you expect the breeder to do anything.
both dogs were fed Royal Canine large breed puppy for 6 months and them switched to royal canine GS food. Yes both dogs also had chew toys as pups.
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I would definately be in contact with the breeder. Could you private message me the breeders name, just out of curiosity? Click on my username and then the pm link. Thanks. By the way, welcome to this great site. I am sure others will weigh in on this thread.

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Besides the weight loss what else is Sam experiencing ? Twelve pounds is ALOT of weight to loss in two weeks and not get answers. Someone is missing the ball here big time. Maybe time to find a new vet and get some fresh eyes on the matter. Please let us know what happens.

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Sam just generally looks uncomfortable when not moving around. Still wants to go out an play ball but seems uncomrfortable after a while. He's now placing his back end down carefully which I will bring up with my vet tomorrow. I've had a number of doctors looking at him at the vet hospital, specialist, internist, etc. I'm frustrated and feel bad for Sam, but I do think the doctors are doing what they can. He's had just about every test and x-ray peformed on him in the last few days. My vet has been great with my dogs over the last 15 years and is the first to refer out when she doesn't know. Kathy, on a totally different note..I grew up in South River, NJ until I was 14. Small world.
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Is there a vet school nearby? Have they done an ultrasound? What does his bloodwork show?

I think you should contact the breeder just so they know what's going on with their dogs.

Also, there are a lot of well bred, expensive dogs on here who have had extensive health problems. German shepherds really do have an astounding number of health problems and our environment also contributes to those problems.

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Hi Ruth,
They have done an ultrasound, done by an ultrasound specialist. All bloodwork came back normal, horomone tests normal, fecal normal, still waiting on urine. The Dr.'s are all kind of puzzled. Thanks.
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I think you should contact the breeder just so they know what's going on with their dogs.

Also, there are a lot of well bred, expensive dogs on here who have had extensive health problems. German shepherds really do have an astounding number of health problems and our environment also contributes to those problems.
Ruth is right. There's only so much that can be guaranteed with living breathing creatures. I had one of these dogs. I controlled for everything I possibly could -- fed the best home-prepared diet, took him to the best specialists, managed his environment obsessively: all of this without any regard to cost, which was very substantial in the end.

The bottom line is that GSDs are not known to be healthy dogs as a breed. Excellent breeders do everything they can to breed very healthy dogs. There are genetic diseases that may be controlled for with conscientious breeding. But there are many other syndromes and illnesses that may not have genetic components whatsoever. There are no guarantees.

I think you should keep your breeder in the loop, not necessarily because there is blame here. I don't know your situation enough to comment either way. But a good breeder imo, cares about their puppies and how they're doing.

As for what's wrong with your dog, it may take a second opinion, or a third. Keep searching. There is an answer there somewhere.

Good luck. Health issues are difficult. You may wish to post specifics about the health case in the Health forum. There are some very knowledgeable, experienced members that frequent that section of this board. You may get good info to lead you in a new direction.
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I agree that you should post in the Health section. You would be amazed what people know on here. And one of the reasons that people are so knowledgeable is that gsds do have so many health problems.

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