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Breeding - how often is too often?

How often is too often to breed a female? I came across a breeder announcing a new litter and recalled the momma having pups just 5 months ago. It seemed really soon, but I am no expert. Just trying to increase my GSD knowledge. Thanks!

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Re: Breeding - how often is too often?

Some times breeders will do a back to back breeding, however, they should give them a brake after that. If they breed more than twice in a row, I would be leary.

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Re: Breeding - how often is too often?

I hate seeing females bred season after season continuously for their reproductive lifetimes....it makes me sad for her...

I don't mind seeing an occassional back to back if the female is given a break before and after, and lives a life as a normal dog - not a puppy factory...I also know that a good producer who is a good and happy mother can stay in good physical shape and have pups at 8 years old - other females look worn out and old at 5 and can have had 6 litters by that age....

Unfortunately, in Europe, many many females are bred continuously until they fail to conceive....interestingly, in Denmark, females can only have 4 litters - period. They are not allowed to be bred after producing 4 litters.

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Re: Breeding - how often is too often?

"in Denmark, females can only have 4 litters - period."

That would put a serious hurt on the puppymills.

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Re: Breeding - how often is too often?

A lot depends on the breed. My friend breeds Irish Wolfhounds. Their ‘normal’ lifespan is only about 6-8 years and they are not fully mature until almost 3. So that doesn’t leave a lot of time for breeding. Some breeders will breed back to back to back (3 breedings) and that’s it.

Some people (and I am beginning to fall into that category) believe it is not natural for a bitch to go through heats without becoming pregnant.

But, it’s hard on a bitch to be pregnant all the time.

And, you want to see how the offspring develop so you can adjust your next breeding to decrease faults and increase desired traits.

So – what should a responsible breeder do?
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Re: Breeding - how often is too often?

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Originally Posted By: NWS_Haven "in Denmark, females can only have 4 litters - period."

That would put a serious hurt on the puppymills.
I think they would just have more bitches and dump them as soon as they produce their 4th.
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Re: Breeding - how often is too often?

Depends on the female, age, etc. IMO. I know one female who had a litter and it almost took her a full year to get back in top phsyical condition. Some females a couple weeks after weaning don't even look like they even had puppies and recover very quickly. I am not for any dog living exclusively in a kennel and cranking out just litter after litter and never seeing the light of day. All dogs deserve a good quality of life IMO. If the female is in top physical condition and healthy, recovers quickly, and lives a quality life I see no problem with back to back breedings...to a point of course....I would hate to see any dog bred continously year after year after year.

Good females have a very short breeding career, as usually when they are younger they are too busy proving themselves on the trial field and the show ring.

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"I think they would just have more bitches and dump them as soon as they produce their 4th."

You're probably right Lauri. It's hard to stop greed.

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Re: Breeding - how often is too often?

Actually I think it is a good way to buy a REALLY nice brood bitch, as they have no reason to hold on them and keep them for exclusive breeding since they are limited on the number she can produce in that country.

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Re: Breeding - how often is too often?

The breeder I was talking to in Denmark resells his females quite often - I declined to sell one of my Gringo females for this reason - there was even an offer to return her after the 4 litters for $X - a trade off for a different female could have been done as well...it just made me uncomfortable.

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