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Protection training starting...

Is obedience good before protection is started? As long as it's not too much on a pup? I planned to start obedience with my pup Reno, but I was wondering, (and I know every hound is different) when is a good age to introduce him to protection? Thanks in advance.
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In my opinion, and from what others have taught me, the dog absolutely must have solid obedience foundation before protection training begins. Protection is about control, and control comes from obedience. ( I think. )

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In my opinion, and from what others have taught me, the dog absolutely must have solid obedience foundation before protection training begins. Protection is about control, and control comes from obedience. ( I think. )
Thanks for the knowledge. It makes sense.
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Agreed. You need a good deal of secondary obedience to be successful in protection work. Now...a dog doesn't need to be perfect, but the foundation needs to be there.

I've seen quite a few dogs where the club or handlers "do not believe" in putting OB on dogs before their protection work "is there." And I have yet to see one of those dog/handler combos that don't make me cringe.

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Right, don't think of it in terms of fancy formal obedience, but in terms of control. That being said, when I am introducing a dog to protection there is zero to minimal ob asked for.
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Is obedience good before protection is started? As long as it's not too much on a pup? I planned to start obedience with my pup Reno, but I was wondering, (and I know every hound is different) when is a good age to introduce him to protection? Thanks in advance.

How old is your pup? can put obedience on him however, one does not want to use compulsion methods. use motivational methods .
when you say protection do you mean you will be attending a sport club?

One wants control on the dog of course,but one does not concentrate on control in the beginning. I can advise you better if we know your ultimate plans for your dog

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I started obedience with Rayne from the start, 9 weeks. It was ALL positive reinforcement, motivational work for her at that time. I didn't teach her any house manners for a while though, she was a wild child in the house until she was probably 4 months old. I probably could have started that using positive reinforcement methods but I was hesitant.

We started the puppy bitework (short sessions, just building drive) at about 12 weeks. It seems to have worked out fine so far doing it that way

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You should join a club or find a reputable trainer. Your club will offer the right guidance for you. They started me on lots of play, lots of drive building, a little obedience, bonding... I then moved on to drive building and basic obedience.. once I get my BH this spring we will move on from drive building, tug work, to the beginning stages of protection.

My pup has the genetics for the sport, so I was told just to focus on the drive building, bonding, reinforcing his full, calm grip and having fun with him.

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How old is your pup? can put obedience on him however, one does not want to use compulsion methods. use motivational methods .
when you say protection do you mean you will be attending a sport club?

One wants control on the dog of course,but one does not concentrate on control in the beginning. I can advise you better if we know your ultimate plans for your dog
He is 8 weeks old. I wanted to start his puppy classes at 10 weeks. I do plan to join some clubs around the area as well for his future activities.
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