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post #1 of 61 (permalink) Old 11-21-2016, 06:58 PM Thread Starter
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Can Pit Bulls be good protection dogs?

I have read on many sites that Pit Bulls or bully breeds are not good for home protection because they simply love people so much. They might let an intruder into the home without bark or bite. I just want to know if any of you guys have experience with pit bulls for protection. I have fostered pits in the past. I did not train them for protection or anything of the sort. They were all VERY sweet and docile dogs.
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There is no breed standard for Pits and it is a huge melting pot of all types. You never know whet you get until the pup is at least 3 years old. Some Pit looking dogs are not even Pits, if there is such a thing as The Pit.
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There is no breed standard for Pits and it is a huge melting pot of all types. You never know whet you get until the pup is at least 3 years old. Some Pit looking dogs are not even Pits, if there is such a thing as The Pit.
I know what you mean, which is why I never fully owned one. I guess I consider staffordshire terriers to be the truest form? I don't even know lol.
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I know what you mean, which is why I never fully owned one. I guess I consider staffordshire terriers to be the truest form? I don't even know lol.
At least a good breeder can give you more reliable information (pedigrees, meeting parent dogs, references, etc.). Look for AKC as other registrations seem to be more flexible.
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LOL ... well most likely a full on "Bully" bashing thread in the making??? But for those of who are "Responsible" Pitty and Pitty Derivative owners (bite stats not withstanding) ... yes as you say they tend to "Luv" people! The D/A thing ... yeah that's another issue ... usually takes work there ... I've found and if you do the work ... it works out fine. In my experience.

And of course sigh ... "PPD" GSD or a Mal is the way to go! Honestly ... you can't argue with numbers. But someone on here was working with training a Cane Corso as a PPD and as opposed to a GSD ... they overlaid "obedience training first" before moving onto the "PPD" phase. Most likely with anything "Bully" ... that would be the way to go??

There are "PPD" Bullies out there but they are very different dogs to work/motivate. Lots of info on the "differences" can be found here.:

Dr. P's Dog Training: Belgian Malinois vs. American Pit Bull Terrier
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I have owned 4 pit or pit mixes and fostered many more than that...

NO. they do NOT make good "protection dogs".

Furthermore, any individuals that happen to show characteristics needed for true protection ability - should be culled.

They don't have the genetic obedience and discernment that the more traditional protection breeds have had bred into them. Too much game and too much independence to be safe.

IMO being a responsible pit bull owner means constantly shutting drives DOWN. Not doing the building neccessary for protection work.
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I have owned 4 pit or pit mixes and fostered many more than that...

NO. they do NOT make good "protection dogs".

Furthermore, any individuals that happen to show characteristics needed for true protection ability - should be culled.

They don't have the genetic obedience and discernment that the more traditional protection breeds have had bred into them. Too much game and too much independence to be safe.

IMO being a responsible pit bull owner means constantly shutting drives DOWN. Not doing the building neccessary for protection work.
And so ... it begins.
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And so ... it begins.
LMAO.

I am seriously the very last person to "bash" pit bulls

It's from my love for the breed, and desire to see it preserved, from where my pitbulls make crappy protection dogs opinion come from.

They are not naturally human aggressive - so most don't have the chops for it to begin with. Then the ones that do have the abilities - there are plenty of reasons not to train them for it.

Have you ever worked with game bred dogs Chip?
I have. Many of them. They are much more difficult to control while they are in drive than our herding breeds. Thus the reason I carried a break stick. Their biting style will cause far more damage than a similar sized shepherd. Making them a liability.

Plus they really don't to get the attention of bozos with more machismo than brains breeding for HA in order to produce the biggest baddest dogs on the block. A problem that has plagued the breed for the last 30 years and has caused hundreds of people to lose their lives and caused the death of thousands of dogs too.
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No this is not a pit bashing thread at all. In fact, when I hear people saying things like "those dogs should all be put down" or "they are a bad breed" I have always tried to defend these dogs. I can remember when a large pit was running through the neighborhood lost, everyone ran for their lives, the dog ran into the street. I walked up to him and signaled a speeding car to stop and got between the car and the dog. I took him by the leash and led him to my house. Everyone ran inside scared for their lives, the owner comes 30 minutes later saying he left the gate open and he got loose. He was such a mean looking dog but was the sweetest thing ever. I know if I had waited a couple more minutes he would have been hit by a car or a cop would shoot him without hesitation.
These dogs make great hunting dogs, it;s just that I have only seen a handful being trained for protection. Honestly something felt weird about it. Like they shouldn't be trained for this sort of thing.
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I wouldn't pick a pit bull for protection work.

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