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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-07-2016, 03:59 PM
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I don't honestly care for the look of the IPO heeling. Sorry IPO ppl. Was it always that way? The super extreme head carriage? Is there any functional purpose to it? I am honestly curious not trying to pick a fight.

I don't think the dog even needs to be looking at you at all in AKC as long as they maintain the position, between head and shoulder along the left leg.
I don't recall anythingredients in the regs about eye contact.

I do believe some AKC ppl do heeling like the IPO dog above, at least Bridget Carlsen but I don't know if she got her start in IPO or AKC or which influenced which.

To each their own. I would rather have my dog also be able to keep track of where he is going if it means taking his eyes off me...he is watching me most of the time, he also needs to navigate store aisles with displays and things.
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Sure it is for fun! And I was just answering Jessoca's question about why some dogs are looking at the handler and the difference I saw in the trial I was in.

All the focus training I did was with toys and fun engagement play. You make it sound like training focus is a death march for the dogs. But it does come down to what you are training for, and your preference also.

Huh? I was just pointing out the difference between AKC obedience and Rally. More serious people usually to the AKC formal obedience and those who just want to do something fun with their dogs do Rally. I never mentioned training focus, no less any death march.
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I do AKC obedience and Rally.It makes no difference if the dog watches your leg or your face as long as he's in position and focused.It works better for me if he watches my leg just because if we keep looking at each other I tend to turn at the waist towards him,which in turn makes him want to sit facing me instead of lined up properly.He could use a better handler

One trick I was taught and boy did they make us practice it, was to stand on a paper plate to do turns so we were moving with our legs and not upper body first. I'm sure we were quite a picture if there had been videos done then!
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One trick I was taught and boy did they make us practice it, was to stand on a paper plate to do turns so we were moving with our legs and not upper body first. I'm sure we were quite a picture if there had been videos done then!
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One trick I was taught and boy did they make us practice it, was to stand on a paper plate to do turns so we were moving with our legs and not upper body first. I'm sure we were quite a picture if there had been videos done then!
Lol!The mirror lined walls at class and a trainer yelling at me"You're doing it AGAIN!" cured me
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The dog looking at the handler is for focus. If the dog is looking at you, they are not looking around being distracted. If they are looking at you, they are ready and waiting for the next command. Once that foundation of focus is in place, everything else just falls into place.

I come from IPO, and decided to try rally for something to do in winter. With only two or three practice sessions with the different signs, a friend and I entered a trial and had no problems (with the dogs - me doing the signs correctly is another story).

You could see the difference between the dogs that have been trained for eye-contact heeling, and those that have not. Those that did not have that focus were very distracted by smells, sights and sounds, and the handlers struggled to keep their attention.

This is it for me. If my dog is looking at me, then I know she's paying attention.

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