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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-21-2019, 09:16 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Laser pointer

My 2-year-old full-blooded German Shepherd doesn't see or react to laser pointer. I was reading some posts about how to stimulate a dog's brain and to give them exercise by using a laser pointer and tried it. I tell her to look at the ground and I point to the laser dot, but she smells where I am pointing and walks away. Why?
P.S. She has been to the vet and he said that she is healthy as a horse! IM FRUSTRATED AND WANT TO KNOW WHY? WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY DOG?! I'M SCARED!
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My 2-year-old full-blooded German Shepherd doesn't see or react to laser pointer. I was reading some posts about how to stimulate a dog's brain and to give them exercise by using a laser pointer and tried it. I tell her to look at the ground and I point to the laser dot, but she smells where I am pointing and walks away. Why?
P.S. She has been to the vet and he said that she is healthy as a horse! IM FRUSTRATED AND WANT TO KNOW WHY? WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY DOG?! I'M SCARED!
This is actually a very VERY good thing, and I'd suggest you toss the laser pointer in the trash or gift it to the nearest professor.

They can cause obsessive behaviors and all kinds of problems. I had a foster that was so neurotic I had to put tape over every light on every appliance and electronic gadget in my house. Fixing the problem, once it becomes ingrained, is horrible.

It's much better to use physical, tangible outlets to spend their physical and mental energy.

A few threads worth reading:

https://www.germanshepherds.com/foru...ery-oddly.html

https://www.germanshepherds.com/foru...dows-help.html
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Using a laser pointer to exercise a dog is extremely dangerous. You need to stop this immediately. Also, that is a lazy way to try and mentally stimulate a dog. Using a laser pointer can create an obsessive behavior in dogs that can make them constantly look for any light to chase or obsess over. Especially in herding breeds like the GSD. Your dog is doing you a favor by ignoring it for now.
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I used to use a laser pointer to exercise my old dog when time was tight or weather was bad. I stopped when I heard that it can create problems. Although we played with the laser pointer the first two years of his life, he never developed any problems.

The laser pointer is used as a training tool by some law enforcement agencies. I have not heard of any of their dogs developing issues from using it.

I highly suspect that there is a genetic component involved in dogs that develop problems.

Time itself is a very powerful component of learning. So learn to wait. Learn to forgive. Learn to backup. It's all necessary for learning.

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I watched a guy do this with his puppy. He did nto listen. He could not get focus from the dog at 1 for heeling. By the time the dog was 2, he had no focus on anything but the ground, he would stand and repeatedly on the ground. At 2.5 he developed seizures and was PTS.

Went to specialist with dog. Basically the dogs brain rewired due to OCD


Throw the laser away.


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Erin, is this maybe your first GSD? From your post, I'm gathering that you might be learning all that you can online.


One of the most important tips that I give new owners who adopt from our breed rescue is that exercise is at its best when it's structured -- going for a nice run together, or a hike with hills, or at least a very long walk every day (or even twice a day). They bond when they're doing this. Nothing means more to them than going out and seeing the world together, side by side. There's no electronic device that can duplicate what you get together out of that simple, time-honored activity -- put your phone in your pocket on DND to let yourself be 100% present in the moment, and focus on your dog, the communication, the body language....it's literally the best part of my day (and my dog's day).



If you need "at home" exercise, teach fetch with two balls so you can throw one the second the dog returns with the other, and keep a fast pace going. Others have mentioned flirt poles in other posts.



If you want mental engagement, practice obedience or "find it" games, or take a nose work class. We build obedience "games" into our life so that we're always practicing something or other in a game-like fashion. Dogwise Publishing has a wonderful catalog of books (and e-books) on training "games."



If you can take a good class with your dog and learn some techniques that suit your dog (whether clicker, treats, or some other method), tricks and other things even become possible. Or if you want something more athletic, an agility class is mentally engaging and physically demanding and gets you around people who are really into their dogs and often know a ton (because they've already made all the mistakes years ago and made their way to the other side).


All of this is just to say...you can do so much more for this dog to engage without that device and avoid all of the risk of causing crazed, obsessive shadow/light chasing.
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Have you tried a flirt pole?--you can purchase one on Amazon or make one easily enough if you are so inclined.
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My 2-year-old full-blooded German Shepherd doesn't see or react to laser pointer. I was reading some posts about how to stimulate a dog's brain and to give them exercise by using a laser pointer and tried it. I tell her to look at the ground and I point to the laser dot, but she smells where I am pointing and walks away. Why?
P.S. She has been to the vet and he said that she is healthy as a horse! IM FRUSTRATED AND WANT TO KNOW WHY? WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY DOG?! I'M SCARED!
Nothing is wrong with her. She's just smart enough not to develop an OCD behavior.

Find a different activity for her. Obedience, tracking, search exercises, etc.




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