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I did not find any old posts for this... Ruger loves to pull hard when we walk him! We thought ok we will just keep walking him and he will become use to it and stop... need less to say he hasn't. He is getting big fast and it is becomming harder to control him on walks. What do we do?
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A couple of questions.
How old is Ruger now?
Do you use a corrective collar?
Is he a food motivated learner?

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Re: Walking??

I ask because there are many ways to obtain the same result. I use different tech. depending on the dog I am working with.

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There are great training collars and leashes that help with this. But all those work best with DOG classes!

The right leash, right collar (sized properly) and right trainer make all the difference! With the addition of the training skills we learn for the dog, and the socialization the pup gets (that we tend to REALLY mess up with on our own).




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Maggieroselee is indeed correct about classes. I would find one that is held in a larger area not in the small area of pet smart ect as it sounds like you are having some control issues and the space would benifit. Also find a class with a trainer that knows large dominant breeds and not one used to just training the little guys. If this is not your first dog you can teach healing quite easily most of the time with different techniques but with the same effect. Teaching healing with distraction is where the classes really help.

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Remember that every step forward you take while the dog pulls REWARDS him for pulling- he gets to continue going forward! Along with a corrective collar and training classes, you can stand stock still when he starts to pull, then start moving in the opposite direction. Repeat when he pulls again. You won't get very far at first but he'll soon understand that if he wants to get anywhere, it will be on YOUR terms.

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We watch a show on TV called "At the end of my leash". One way he gets the dog to pay attention to you while walking is to loop the leash around your waste and then when the dog starts to pull, quickly turn in another direction. Do that every time. The goal is to teach the dog you are walking him. Eventually he'll clue in and you should be able to make a turn quickly with him adjusting so that the leash never gets pulled.

I could jog, make a sudden stop, turn around and start jogging again without feeling the pull on the lease. It's an awesome feeling of accomplishment.

Of course, you praise/treat when they are doing well.

Thor & Riggs didn't really pull but kept the leash 'taunt'. 1 hour of doing this technique (individually) made a world of difference. I can walk the boys with a loose leash now.

Keeping in mind, they are 3.5 yrs old and go on walks almost everyday so to 'fine tune' them was easy.

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Renji didn't get that though I tried and tried. He's pretty stubborn and I think began to rely on the leash pop of me turning around as the signal to go the other way (and then he probably thought I was going crazy from all the funky direction changes!) He IS starting to understand with me talking to him upbeat, passing out treats when he's walking close, stopping when he's pulling, and after a session of sheepherding and learning about boundaries and what happens if he crosses mine, he is getting a lot better. Maybe I need to carry a training flag with me now.

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Quote:Keeping in mind, they are 3.5 yrs old and go on walks almost everyday so to 'fine tune' them was easy.
I think that is key. Since walking does little for Renji, we're doing everything but walking (my fault for not making a point of walking for training). Did you start the above method when they were young or as adults? I can see this method working VERY well with a puppy.

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Originally Posted By: DianaMDid you start the above method when they were young or as adults? I can see this method working VERY well with a puppy.
The leash wrapped around the waist? Just this summer.

Problem with my boys is that they always (especially Thor) have to out do one another or be faster, so I think that's the main reason for the leash tautness on walks.

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Originally Posted By: DianaMRemember that every step forward you take while the dog pulls REWARDS him for pulling- he gets to continue going forward! Along with a corrective collar and training classes, you can stand stock still when he starts to pull, then start moving in the opposite direction. Repeat when he pulls again. You won't get very far at first but he'll soon understand that if he wants to get anywhere, it will be on YOUR terms.
This is pretty close to what I recommend. I'd omit both the training collar (flat collar works just fine) and walking the opposite direction. Just stop. One thing to be prepared for -- your first few days or week of walking you will go for long walks over a very short distance! Remember to reward a slack leash or a return to your side (or both if you chose) - at least with "Good Dog!" if not with both the praise and a tasty treat along with Moving Forward.

If you are consistent in this, you will be amazed.

I had to chuckle a bit at my neighbor who was having a hard time walking her young lab. She said "If I have treats there's no problem." Uhhh so then carry treats! The moral here - reward your dog with something he values. And watch that you don't reward the wrong behavior.
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