Re: teaching out
If you use a tug, you can hold it still. Once is it is still, the "prey" is dead, drive drops, he'll out.
Reward with praise and start it moving again, make him miss, drive goes up. Let him catch it and win the game.
It's a game, and the bite and fight is the biggest reward. Once it's still, game has to restart, so out is natural, he'll want it live again.
Once he's won it, he'll bring it back to play some more for the same reason, as it's already dead in his grip.
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