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teaching out

im not too sure how i havent been able to teach my pup out yet. i've worked on drop it but he gets so excited now that he wont let go. so anyway could any of u give me any of your "training techniques"

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Re: teaching out

I would probably start with a trade. When he latches on, offer something better (or a treat!). Then as he releases, say "out" and give him the new toy or treat. You don't want to have to fight him to out and whatever you do, he MUST out when you say it.
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I recommend the trade as also, that and playing a two ball game


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Two ball is AWESOME for teaching "out" as are extremely high value treats. Forget the Milkbones and store treats, break out the stinky cheese, the burger meat, the salmon, etc. Make it REALLY worth his while.

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Re: teaching out

If you use a tug, you can hold it still. Once is it is still, the "prey" is dead, drive drops, he'll out.
Reward with praise and start it moving again, make him miss, drive goes up. Let him catch it and win the game.
It's a game, and the bite and fight is the biggest reward. Once it's still, game has to restart, so out is natural, he'll want it live again.
Once he's won it, he'll bring it back to play some more for the same reason, as it's already dead in his grip.





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I agree with dOg. This is the way I taught and we have a very reliable out.
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alright ill give it a shot

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Re: teaching out

This is great advice. Ivan Balabanov teaches this technique for the out. I have watched my Dad do this with young Mals & even an older German Shepherd that would not out. He changed it a little by marking the OUT and rewarding quickly. He really plays hard with the dogs and always makes it a lot of fun.

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Originally Posted By: dOgIf you use a tug, you can hold it still. Once is it is still, the "prey" is dead, drive drops, he'll out.
Reward with praise and start it moving again, make him miss, drive goes up. Let him catch it and win the game.
It's a game, and the bite and fight is the biggest reward. Once it's still, game has to restart, so out is natural, he'll want it live again.
Once he's won it, he'll bring it back to play some more for the same reason, as it's already dead in his grip.


I have to say this is method is GREAT!! I was amazed on how fast it worked. And I havent worked on any outs prior to doing this.

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Originally Posted By: dOgIf you use a tug, you can hold it still. Once is it is still, the "prey" is dead, drive drops, he'll out.
What would you do with a dog that continues to pull on it even after YOU have stopped? That's what my Cocker does. I'll stop tugging on it but he just keeps pulling. All four feet planted, he goes PULL PULL PULL PULL and can keep it up for quite some time.
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