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post #11 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-02-2008, 04:40 PM
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Re: teaching out

My Morgan is that way too - too much mileage between then and now for me to remember how I taught her to let go. I do know when she catches REAL PREY (some creature in the yard) she'll keep shaking it until I call her off it.


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post #12 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-03-2008, 04:31 AM
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Re: teaching out

One of the most effective ways I've learned to teach a dog "give" is to spit yummy treats on the top of the dog's head.

What I do is I fill my mouth with a number of pieces of meat or cheese. Then I play whatever game I'm playing with my dog (fetch or tug or whatever) and when I want my dog to let go of the item, I hold onto it and say "GIVE!" and then immediately start spitting treats onto the top of his head.

I have yet to have a dog that doesn't let go of whatever they have so that they can go after the treats.

Do this for several training sessions and you'll have a dog that releases immediately (and happily) on command. Once they're doing that, it's easy to switch out to just throwing the toy again instead of spitting treats. I tend to still do the treats on occasion so that the dog doesn't ever really know when the sky will be raining bits of meat and cheese .. *L*

I've used the "freeze and don't tug back" method and it does work well on some dogs, but there are others who simply keep pulling. So I tend to always go through the "rain of treats" training at some point to reinforce the concept that "give" is a really good thing.

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post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-06-2008, 12:23 PM
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Re: teaching out

This is EXACTLY the behavior you want in a dog to teach the out effectively by stopping the prey. Pull the prey item up close to your body and simply wait them out. Once they OUT put the item back into a prey mode and let the dog strike. Melanie describes a method they may work with some dogs, but my Mal and a friend's GSD that I trained that were possesive prey monsters showed no interest in the food.

One little note here this can be a physically taxing training method and you may be exhausted after just a couple of sessions. Be patient it will work and you will have a good clean crisp out because the dog learns quickly that out means another chance at the prey.

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