That's an interesting one. Never had to deal with that. OK, a little brain storming here: maybe I would turn away and leave him as soon as he outs. Or play with the toy yourself and when he is hyped up, hold onto it when he grabs it and gently tug and praise him, let him have the toy. Teach him the command for 'out' in the meantime. Say it as soon as he opens his mouth. Then praise him for doing so. He will learn that he can out as soon as he hears the command. Is this the new dog? Maybe he is still too polite? In never use treats with these tug and fetch exercises as it will take the focus on the toy away. Keep us posted, I like to know what works.
Yes, this is the newest one. I swear he’s a cat. If I throw, and he grabs it, and I give a yes or good boy, he outs it immediately. He also will do an out when given the command if he has the kids shoe or something else he shouldn’t have. I just say out, and he outs no problem. We don’t train with treats for basic commands, he is into praise way more than treats. If I’m teaching him something a little more difficult, I’ll whip out the treat, otherwise, he gets praise (yes!) and a quick rundown (brief full body pet).
I may just suck at engaging. Lyka still does not play with a single toy to this day. I can make her, but she doesn’t enjoy it in the least, so I stopped. But Crios and Seiran have zero issues engaging. I’d ask my trainer, but he’s overseas doing some kind of training workshop.
Seiran knows the out command, and she outs when given the command, otherwise she will tug with us (before the poisoning, she’s still not 100%). He’s watched Seiran do it, but every single time we give praise or touch his tug, he outs it. I’ve taught plenty of outs, never had to unteach an out though!
8, he does engage with us, he’s a dream to train, picks up on things almost instantly, and you can see his brain turning while training and playing. It’s just this one thing, and he’s been like this day 1. I’ll look into training a hold, I know that’s what my ex did with his field labs so they didn’t maul a bird before returning it. I just never had any part in the training of those dogs because it was the ex’s thing. He has no problem mouth wise, he opens doors and cupboards with a paracord, so he understands pulling (tugging) to get those open. I’ll look up some hold videos now. Hopefully it can give me some pointers!