Big pup, Prey drive and Kids - Page 2 - German Shepherd Dog Forums
 25Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #11 of 40 (permalink) Old 09-13-2018, 04:28 PM
Moderator
 
car2ner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Maryland
Posts: 4,111
Without reading all the posts I'm going to add my 2 cents. I don't have kids around all the time, either. This time of year there are kids at bus stops, though, and often a parent or two with them (but not always). I usually put out a hand that means STOP when the kids start to come near. And so far they either completely stop or slow down. I keep my dog near my side and explain to the kids that running up to the dog is a good way to get knocked down (I don't say bit...kids imaginations can get a dog owner in trouble). If all goes right and my dog isn't too tired or too excited I will let them come in for a touch. I still watch my dog to make sure they don't get too over-bearing. If not I'll have the kids stay at arms length and have my dog bark for them.

As far as e-collars go, I don't use one. There are times when my gal-dog wants to talk smack with the neighbor's dog and I can't catch her to correct her. That might be the only reason I'd use an e-collar and even then the timing would have to be perfect...otherwise it might end of being "when I see that other dog I get zapped...I HATE that other dog". That would be worse than what I have now, which is mostly excited fence running for 90 seconds or so. "the other dog is here! The other dog is here!" It would be better to use the vibration or tingle from the collar to signal a recall. "if you leave that thing and come to me instead something good will happen" and pair it with a long leash to teach the concept.

If you want to use the e-collar to teach a dog to stay out of something like a flower bed I guess you could contact the invisible fence vendors.

about.me/car2ner
Patton CGC BH
Chief fetch fanatic

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

car2ner is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 40 (permalink) Old 09-13-2018, 05:51 PM
Elite Member
 
Muskeg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Mountains
Posts: 1,724
You avoid superstitious e-collar issues if you always use markers prior to correcting and have introduced the collar properly.

OP- find a new trainer if the one you are using does not emphasize this. I wouldn't use an e-collar for this problem but it can be done correctly. It can also be a real bad idea, so make sure you get the details from your trainer.
wolfy dog likes this.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Muskeg is offline  
post #13 of 40 (permalink) Old 09-13-2018, 08:24 PM Thread Starter
Master Member
 
McGloomy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 671
@CometDog Exactly, adults are capable of working on issues. I always try and bring my dog walking in public places such as malls when he is exercised.
@mmags thanks. The Do Not Pet harness is actually what I've been thinking too.
McGloomy is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #14 of 40 (permalink) Old 09-13-2018, 08:26 PM Thread Starter
Master Member
 
McGloomy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 671
@Katsugsd Hahaha yeah sometimes they do give 'that look.' We are indeed going to have a session in a public space.
@Wolfydog I think the height is not listed. Just the age. Shame...
McGloomy is offline  
post #15 of 40 (permalink) Old 09-13-2018, 08:29 PM Thread Starter
Master Member
 
McGloomy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 671
@tim_s_adams Lol, I can understand why those people leave and grunt! Going in a bike... Pfft... Jeez. Tim, I'm not able to do it with other kids probably because with my nephew it was an everyday thing and it was always in a controlled environment while with other kids... Not so much. But you're right, use every opportunity and encounter as a chance of training. With the upcoming session I'd definitely address this 'kids issues' with my trainer so I'd know how to really handle each situation properly.
McGloomy is offline  
post #16 of 40 (permalink) Old 09-13-2018, 08:39 PM Thread Starter
Master Member
 
McGloomy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 671
@GandalfTheShepherd I have thought about CGC, but will probably do that when he's fully matured, say 3 years old. I love the idea of just sitting and let him 'people watch.' I'd definitely do that! I know the perfect place. Thanks.

I disagree that he is not still a pup though. Even at 2 years old I'd consider GSDs still pups. Just big body puppy mind. Maturing, yes. Fully matured, I don't think so. That being said, every step I take in training him is to help him and guide him as he continue to mature with age.
McGloomy is offline  
post #17 of 40 (permalink) Old 09-13-2018, 08:41 PM Thread Starter
Master Member
 
McGloomy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 671
@Apex1 I LOVE hearing that by 19 months your dog has started to 'REALLY get it.' And yes, I do think my dog likes kids. He is never annoyed or bothered or growl around kids, which I'm thankful for. I really really like the idea of 'sit for adults, down for kids.' I would definitely try to implement that. It'll be extra hard but great idea indeed! Thanks!!
McGloomy is offline  
post #18 of 40 (permalink) Old 09-13-2018, 08:44 PM Thread Starter
Master Member
 
McGloomy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 671
@car2ner should've done that when that kid runs... It was my bad because I was on the phone... More precautions when kids are around I suppose.
@Muskeg the trainer I found is legit. He works under Nat Geo and specialises in powerful breeds. So we'll discuss e-collar in details for sure.
McGloomy is offline  
post #19 of 40 (permalink) Old 09-13-2018, 08:49 PM Thread Starter
Master Member
 
McGloomy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 671
E-collar to stay away from an object is something I've been discussing with my trainer. Mostly to prevent a behaviour. For example, my dog is about to hump, correction. He has his attention on a jumping kid (yeah, we've come across a kid doing JUMPING JACKS for no reason in an off-leash big dog area), correction.
McGloomy is offline  
post #20 of 40 (permalink) Old 09-13-2018, 09:48 PM
Elite Member
 
KaiserAus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,030
I have two children (12 and 11) so my boy just loves kids, he knows kids mean great fun... but the way he plays with my two is not the way he can play with other kids... my kids know his growls are part of the game and his teeth don't hurt, but other kids get scared when he growls and makes a move to mouth them. I take Kaiser down to the kids park every weekend, we do training (sit, down, stay) right next to the swings and climbing frames where all the kids are running and squealing - always with the lead on. If kids ask to pat him, I ask them to please wait whilst I make him sit (this is very hard because he is dying to go up and lick faces) but the kids always oblige and Kaiser does sit and then he gets his pats. I keep a close hold of his lead and if he makes any movement towards licking or faces or jumping he gets a hard pull on his prong collar.
He has gotten much better with age, last week he had 5 boys all about 12 - 14yr old surrounding him, patting him and telling him what a lovely boy he was and generally getting quite excited by it all and he behaved perfectly... maturity helps but so does knowing what is expected of him and plenty of practise.
tim_s_adams likes this.
KaiserAus is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the German Shepherd Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
An interesting observation of food drive and prey drive echo's dad Training Theory & Methods 5 06-21-2016 09:09 AM
Prey Drive vs. Play Drive? Augustine Puppy Behavior 5 12-05-2014 11:22 AM
Teaching a pup with low food drive, but high prey drive... need advice Mog Training Our Puppy (basic) 10 04-01-2013 10:56 AM
Play drive OR prey drive Superpup General Information 12 06-03-2008 01:05 PM
prey drive vs. prey aggression jarn Aggression (the good, the bad & the ugly) 21 05-28-2008 06:45 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome