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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 08-27-2017, 08:27 PM Thread Starter
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How to release watch command without fully releasing?

I am training for duration for the watch command i.e. his eyes are focused on my eyes. My issue is finding a release command for the watch command without fully releasing a command he is already in.

For example, I place my dog in down stay or sit stay and then give a watch command. I am trying to figure out a release for the watch without also releasing the down stay or sit stay, so he is still in a stay but he can look around as he pleases.

This is the same for focused heeling. Let's say we are heeling and his eyes are focused on me, but I want to release him from the eye contact so he can look ahead and observe the environment without releasing him from the heel. I can't find much on how to approach this training issue.
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 08-28-2017, 11:50 AM
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I'm not a professional dog trainer by any stretch of imagination, so I was waiting to hear what the pros on here were going to suggest...

But I can tell you how I'd approach this. You'll need a new release word, obviously, and I'd introduce it by marking when the dog looks away. I would start in the down-stay position, just waiting long enough for the dog to look away on his own. Then mark the behavior with the new command and praise/treat/toy while maintaining the down-stay. Eventually the dog will get the meaning. And since you're using a new command, there should be minimal confusion on your current release command.
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Watch him form the corner of your eyes and wait. As soon as his eyes 'wander', give it a name and he eventually pairs it with the behavior. I would stand right next to him at first to prevent him from breaking the stay. Keep us posted. This is an interesting and possibly a tough one too.
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Maybe you are over thinking this?The 'watch' is over when you break eye contact.No need for a verbal cue.
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Maybe you are over thinking this?The 'watch' is over when you break eye contact.No need for a verbal cue.
The KISS principle in action! Wish I'd have thought of this.
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Maybe you are over thinking this?The 'watch' is over when you break eye contact.No need for a verbal cue.
Good thought, but there are times where I want him to look at my eyes/face, but I don't necessarily want to reciprocate that by looking at his eyes. For example, in focused heeling, I am looking straight ahead, but want his eyes focused on my face or eyes.
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Trying to think of a cool specific release command for the watch command. Any ideas? First one that popped in my head was OBSERVE. Your ideas would be appreciated! Thanks
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I like focus.

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"AT EASE" popped in my head.
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I wonder if Gun Dogs have some good watch release commands.
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