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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 01-08-2011, 09:18 PM Thread Starter
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not jump on counters and table to steal food?

Our 7 month old Jackson is a complete pig. He eats EVERYTHING. And its becoming a problem. He eats whatever is not nailed down. But, its becoming a problem because I am afraid of him getting something stuck in him.
But as of lately, him stealing food is a pain. My dh was making lunches, he had food in the lunch boxes, he walked into the garage to get more snacks, and in that minute-Jackson stole apples out of the lunches and ate them. He has no manners. But, we are not sure the correct way to teach him not to do this. He jumps on the counters and kitchen table. What do you do to curb this behavior? His food drive is probably the highest I have ever seen in a dog...

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You can only really teach your dog to not counter surf when you are right there. It's almost impossible to teach them not to do it reliably when you aren't. If you don't want something eaten, you have to put it safely away.

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Of all my dogs, Dante is the only one who was a counter surfer. I say was, because he's 99% cured of this horrible bad habit. He discovered one day that he was tall enough to look around up there and it grew to stealing things (food), and it got out of control FAST.

We could catch him in the act and he would stay up (front feet on the counter) till you got within reaching distance. He would actually stay there and watch as you approached.

Finally resorted to the e-collar (remote trainer) and set him up a couple of times with yummy treats on the counter. Left the room but could still see in the kitchen. It was like fishing with live bait, only moments before he'd jump up.

Now he seems to think the counters are electric and he stays off them.
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With fosters that countersurfed, I let them drag a leash around with a prong. I leave something tempting on the counter and then give a swift correction when they try to hop up. This doesn't teach them not to countersurf when you're not there though. You just have to put the food out of reach when you're gone.


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A cattle prod, also called a stock prod, is a handheld device commonly used to make cattle or other livestock move by striking or poking them, or in the case of a Hot-Shot-type prod, through a relatively high-voltage, low-current electric shock.

Just kidding. I have no idea how to discourage this behavior unless you were physically there when he does it, then you could correct on the spot. Curious to see what others say.
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Oh my Lord, Kain, you had me going for a second there!


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Work on leave it and once it is mastered use it just before walking away from food- it really does work even if your not there. My lab was a terrible counter surfer until we initiated the leave it command with food and slowly but surely he began to respect my food resources even when out of the room. I can and do leave food on my counters, tables, night stand, or wherever I am eating and when I walk away I give a simple leave it and he does. The GSD is 14 months and 99% there....she did steal some pork chops a few months back but none since then
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Work on leave it and once it is mastered use it just before walking away from food- it really does work even if your not there. My lab was a terrible counter surfer until we initiated the leave it command with food and slowly but surely he began to respect my food resources even when out of the room. I can and do leave food on my counters, tables, night stand, or wherever I am eating and when I walk away I give a simple leave it and he does. The GSD is 14 months and 99% there....she did steal some pork chops a few months back but none since then
Never heard that term before. **whew** I'm catching a cramp!
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Rem started doing the same thing - I've taught him "off." It's very simple, say "off" firmly, treat and praise when he obeys. But here's the trick - I also taught him "up." Maybe it'll come in handy one day, but really I just wanted to drive the "off" concept home - if he knows what up is, he knows even more what off means. And it enables me to practice by telling him up and then off. He's mastered it. He'll still attempt to jump up, but a quick "off" and he's right back on the floor. He's only 4 months old, so I expect with more training, he'll stop it completely soon.

Combined with leave it, it's highly effective. So even if he does jump up, "leave it" and then "off" will ensure he not only gets down, but doesn't touch anything. Rem knows leave it well, so he has never eaten or grabbed anything off of a high surface. He just investigates, xD.

I would know if it happened if I were in another room because I'd hear it - he's a big, oaf of a puppy and he makes a lot of noise just doing anything. I have never heard him do it when I wasn't around. But I also make sure I do not leave food of any kind on my counters. But I have so many other pets that such a thing would be foolish of me, anyway. I have left chews and stuff on them - and off must work, because he knows they're there, and leaves them alone. If the command was a failure, I'd keep finding him with the bones, but so far, I haven't.

My late Great Dane, Scout, who I lost in August, truly couldn't help it - his head naturally stood taller than the countertops! He didn't even have to jump up! Always had things disappearing when he was around!


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we have the same problem with Riley. We leave nothing on the counter and he figured out how start opening cupboards. He has to follow us when we leave the room and if he doesnt he's crated. I've considered getting a static mat and putting it on the counter when we leave but also putting the static mat at the trashcan too so we can reliably leave him out the crate. He stays out of trouble except for the counter surfing, pantry surfing and the trash diving. hide the trash and threaten his life if he counter surfs and he's good! like a freaking teenager.

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